[Gianni]

But the "elite" should have known better to think such presumptuous thoughts such as the notion that Virginia was a "country" that could stand in the world doing what she pleased as an independent entity.

Oddly, the framers of the Constitution saw this as the exact opposite; the Union could not stand as a 'country' or independent entity without New York and Virginia.

I'm curious, as someone who absolutely despised the Constitution and the notion of increased federal power; someone who would gladly have taken Virginia out of the Union at the time of Constitutional ratification, do you consider Patrick Henry a traitor as well?

[Non-Sequitur]

Oddly...

Odd accurately describes the overwhelming majority of your posts.

[mac_truck]

I'm curious, ... do you consider Patrick Henry a traitor as well?

Your bilious editorializing aside, the answer is no.

"The first thing I have at heart is American liberty; the second thing is American union; and I hope the people of Virginia will endeavor to preserve that union." -Patrick Henry June 5 1788

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Who do you think better upheld the ideals of Patrick Henry and the Declaration of Independence-the Radical Republicans or Cornerstone Stephens and the rest of the pro-slavery crowd?

Unless the Declaration didn't really mean what it said, the Radical Republicans were the true heirs of the Revolution and it's goal of liberty for ALL men.