Posted on 09/10/2005 4:46:12 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
Lincoln holiday on its way out
By Phil Kabler Staff writer
A bill to combine state holidays for Washington and Lincoln’s birthdays into a single Presidents’ Day holiday cleared its first legislative committee Wednesday, over objections from Senate Republicans who said it besmirches Abraham Lincoln’s role in helping establish West Virginia as a state.
Senate Government Organization Committee members rejected several attempts to retain Lincoln’s birthday as a state holiday.
State Sen. Russ Weeks, R-Raleigh, introduced an amendment to instead eliminate Columbus Day as a paid state holiday. “Columbus didn’t have anything to do with making West Virginia a state,” he said. “If we have to cut one, let’s cut Christopher Columbus.”
Jim Pitrolo, legislative director for Gov. Joe Manchin, said the proposed merger of the two holidays would bring West Virginia in line with federal holidays, and would effectively save $4.6 million a year — the cost of one day’s pay to state workers.
Government Organization Chairman Ed Bowman, D-Hancock, said the overall savings would be even greater, since by law, county and municipal governments must give their employees the same paid holidays as state government.
“To the taxpayers, the savings will be even larger,” he said.
The bill technically trades the February holiday for a new holiday on the Friday after Thanksgiving. For years, though, governors have given state employees that day off with pay by proclamation.
Sen. Sarah Minear, R-Tucker, who also objected to eliminating Lincoln’s birthday as a holiday, argued that it was misleading to suggest that eliminating the holiday will save the state money.
“It’s not going to save the state a dime,” said Minear, who said she isn’t giving up on retaining the Lincoln holiday.
Committee members also rejected an amendment by Sen. Steve Harrison, R-Kanawha, to recognize the Friday after Thanksgiving as “Lincoln Day.”
“I do believe President Lincoln has a special place in the history of West Virginia,” he said.
Sen. Randy White, D-Webster, said he believed that would create confusion.
“It’s confusing to me,” he said.
Senate Judiciary Chairman Jeff Kessler, D-Marshall, suggested that the state could recognize Lincoln’s proclamation creating West Virginia as part of the June 20 state holiday observance for the state’s birthday.
Proponents of the measure to eliminate a state holiday contend that the numerous paid holidays - as many as 14 in election years — contribute to inefficiencies in state government.
To contact staff writer Phil Kabler, use e-mail or call 348-1220.
Nonsense. Look back in the thread - was I asked a direct question that I did not respond to? If so, it was an oversight on my part, or I probably considered it immaterial after I stated (unsolicited) that the organization is racist.
By the way, what would know now about what a "normal thinking conservative" would do? Aren't you from a place where one is labeled conservate just because they skip their shift acting as town crier of liberal dogma?
The word Jewish is always capitalized, unless you were conveying a "point"?
Only "point" being that I didn't know that - seems I've seen it both ways, but a good tip and I'll be sure to use it properly from now on.
Your insults, slander and masked anti-Jewish comments have not gone unnoticed.
Find an example of any... I was attempting a defense for your intractible and inexcusible statement that "rural" people were the only ones stupid enough to be ripe for cultivation by racist, terrorist pigs.
[Espinola, 1341] I would say it's probably 50 - 50 since southern Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois are altra-rural & boring. That's virtual ground for hate groups.[Espinola, 1343] The Klan's main focus for brainwashing new numb numb's has always been far more rural then urban.
If you have evidence that such people exist, you are obligated to present it to the FBI.
nolu chan
And I consider that a compliment. Being banned for quoting Lincoln and counteracting the neocon agenda are hardly something he should/would be ashamed of.
Quote my "deliberate disinformation" for everyone to see, as I have done for yours.
Since when is it a conservative ideal to rip the nation in pieces especially in time of war? The only war this element is enveloped with is the one against America.
From an investment banker... LOL.
Time for the "Grand Old Partisan" challenge:
Name one thing you've done today to advance the war on terror and better the cause of the United States against those who would do us harm. There is now a (work) day that goes by when I cannot.
Don't care what you "allegedly" do. Credibility is the word. You can allegedly be whoever you want to be (ask stand watie :)) on the web so don't bother.
"So why aren't they shot on sight?" I don't think I can help you with this as it seems from left field. Are you looking for the easy pictures or something in this thread? You will improve comprehension by actually reading all the words instead. "[Terrorist of a different stripe]" was what I included in the reference to the klan. Maybe there was some difference noted....maybe.....duhhhhhh.
"Your laughable assumption that I 'defended' anyone associated...."
Liar. Where did I vocalize this "assumption"?
It is tiring having your type rewrite postings to fit your preconceptions.
"At least you have the sense to blast the klan for what they are..."
THAT IS WHAT I WROTE ABOUT YOU. Got it? Read all the words.....not just the pictures. LOL!!!!
"There is now a (work) day that goes by when I cannot."
Here we go.
From a guy who has the time to post on FR during the day!!
It's likely we'll hear of daring exploits keeping us engineers and investment bankers and our families safe and warm. LOL!!
Do you want previous quotes on this thread only, or going way back ...?
"From an investment banker... LOL."
Are implying what I do is "investment banker" ing
"Name one thing you've done today to advance the war on terror and better the cause of the United States against those who would do us harm."
LOL I preoccupied you on the computer so you could not run outside and start a neo-confederate insurrection in your home town (sarcasm) I deserve a Presidential citation for that one. A lot of old ladies were not sacred today!
"I preoccupied you on the computer so you could not run outside and start a neo-confederate insurrection...."
Glad I didn't have Pepsi just then!!!!
It hurts coming out your nose! LOL!!!!
I can just see the Pepsi flying all over the joint LOL!!
Well, I'll tell ya, would rather eat grits then have the thought of you spending an elongated amount of time, with Stand Watie :)
Yea, he "knows" the late banned and trashed nolu....he even has one of that "individual's" stupid quotes up on his about page:)
Kind of a sort of homage or memorial I'd guess. LOL!
I stand corrected......it is another of this same crew named "4cj" with the nolu admiration/lovefest quotes.
But these may all be the same person......who knows???
http://www.leagueofthesouth.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=13&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
"It didn’t matter if he was innocent or guilty, they weren’t going to convict him.” Frank James may indeed have been “guilty” of breaking Yankee law, but there was a time when good Southerners had the sense to understand the virtue of heroism when it ran up against mere legalism."
I wonder what Mr. LOS thought about the OJ Simpson verdict. But here's the #1 abomination from this article:
But can you imagine how different Frank James’s trial would be today, especially after 11 September 2001, the USA Patriot Act, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, and on-going wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? I would wager that most Huntsvillians (and Southerners in general) would call old Frank a terrorist rather than a hero. Of course, they would have been well conditioned by the media, their political representatives, and all respectable public opinion to accept the proposition that anyone who confronted and contested the power and authority of the federal government deserved imprisonment and even death. What the Yankees couldn’t do to us in 1884 they can do with apparent ease today."
I wonder if this guy considers Osama as a noble rebel descendant of the anti-Yankee efforts of rebs like Quantrill, Frank James and the Klan. I can see the connection.
The original Klan was a racist organization that used murder and intimidation of mostly unarmed people to try to gain the control of what they lost in a fair fight on the battlefield. The shame is that the reponse of the authorities was not more resolute, for strong measures worked against Klan I.
When good men in authority like Parson Brownlow lifted their finger, the Klan ran for cover.
Homeland Security should really be keeping a close eye on this leader of the "L.O.S" and anyone in the leadership. Michael Hill, the President of the L.O.S.is a metally unstable paranoid sicko, with comments like this one:
"What the Yankees couldn’t do to us in 1884 they can do with apparent ease today."
Read what the W.O.S blogmaster thinks of Free Republic. A sample:
"The bloodthirsty posters at “Free Republic” – a name so deceptive and misleading that it borders on the obscene -- worship naked power."
Truth in reporting is always nice.
More off the L.O.S. blog section:
"And too many Southerners have fallen for Bush, who's a Yankee-born, anti-Southern sell-out" - Blogmaster
"America stands revealed before the world as just another unaccountable police state."
Click here for more
"Want to see how rickety our republican institutions have become? Go to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse and read the posts from the members of Free Republic.com. The bloodthirsty posters at “Free Republic” – a name so deceptive and misleading that it borders on the obscene -- worship naked power. These people dare the "defeatists" to get in Bush's way as he flexes executive power by ordering wiretaps -- he don't need no stinkin' warrants! They glory in the exercise of American military might, and become positively ecstatic at news reports of Iraqi insurgents being blown away by the US occupation army. At Free Republic, the preferred solution to the continuing resistance to American-style liberation is to kill anyone who so much as questions their liberators." More...
Nice find.
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