Posted on 09/10/2005 4:46:12 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
Lincoln holiday on its way out
By Phil Kabler Staff writer
A bill to combine state holidays for Washington and Lincoln’s birthdays into a single Presidents’ Day holiday cleared its first legislative committee Wednesday, over objections from Senate Republicans who said it besmirches Abraham Lincoln’s role in helping establish West Virginia as a state.
Senate Government Organization Committee members rejected several attempts to retain Lincoln’s birthday as a state holiday.
State Sen. Russ Weeks, R-Raleigh, introduced an amendment to instead eliminate Columbus Day as a paid state holiday. “Columbus didn’t have anything to do with making West Virginia a state,” he said. “If we have to cut one, let’s cut Christopher Columbus.”
Jim Pitrolo, legislative director for Gov. Joe Manchin, said the proposed merger of the two holidays would bring West Virginia in line with federal holidays, and would effectively save $4.6 million a year — the cost of one day’s pay to state workers.
Government Organization Chairman Ed Bowman, D-Hancock, said the overall savings would be even greater, since by law, county and municipal governments must give their employees the same paid holidays as state government.
“To the taxpayers, the savings will be even larger,” he said.
The bill technically trades the February holiday for a new holiday on the Friday after Thanksgiving. For years, though, governors have given state employees that day off with pay by proclamation.
Sen. Sarah Minear, R-Tucker, who also objected to eliminating Lincoln’s birthday as a holiday, argued that it was misleading to suggest that eliminating the holiday will save the state money.
“It’s not going to save the state a dime,” said Minear, who said she isn’t giving up on retaining the Lincoln holiday.
Committee members also rejected an amendment by Sen. Steve Harrison, R-Kanawha, to recognize the Friday after Thanksgiving as “Lincoln Day.”
“I do believe President Lincoln has a special place in the history of West Virginia,” he said.
Sen. Randy White, D-Webster, said he believed that would create confusion.
“It’s confusing to me,” he said.
Senate Judiciary Chairman Jeff Kessler, D-Marshall, suggested that the state could recognize Lincoln’s proclamation creating West Virginia as part of the June 20 state holiday observance for the state’s birthday.
Proponents of the measure to eliminate a state holiday contend that the numerous paid holidays - as many as 14 in election years — contribute to inefficiencies in state government.
To contact staff writer Phil Kabler, use e-mail or call 348-1220.
you are WELL-KNOWN by all here to be one of the most ferocious & ignorant of the south-HATERS & spewers of NONSENSE from the REVISIONISTS out of NE academia.but since you are a member-in-good-standing of the DY coven, that i guess is to be expected.
btw, i'm NOT a "chief" but just a member of the Tsalagiyi Nvdagi tribe.
btw, when NON-AmerIndians call someone "chief", it is considered by ALL AmerIndians as BOTH INSULTING to our culture & traditions AND a RACIST slur. just thought you'd want to know, so you won't make that DUMB mistake in the future.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
Employment
1) Current HVAC (Heating and Air Conditioning) Company Employee in as yet undisclosed capacity.
2) Current "Guest Lecturer" at undisclosed College (writes Faculty notes, has typewriter's capital letters modified and does research
although not Tenured Faculty Member.....as of this writing)
3) Current "Policy Wonk" at undiclosed Non-Profit Organization
4) Current Partner in a Security Company seeking Middle East Security Services Contracts
5) Former Professor of Something at an undisclosed Texas Church related College
6) Former English 101 Teacher somewhere (College level English Comp)
7) Former Instructor/Professor at US ARMY Military Police School
8) Former Security Supervisor for a large City/County Hospital (unclear as to why Mr. Watie equates two separate entities)
9) Former Magazine business executive who entertained clients
A VERY busy man obviously
Education
1) English Lit Undergrad on one post
2) Political Science Degree (either MS or BS/BA - not sure)
3) Public Policy Degree (either MSPP or BS/BA - not sure)
4) Public Administration Degree (either MSPA or BS/BA - not sure)
5) Additionally states "i wrote one of my 3 mini-thesis (sic) for my ms on san jacinto." (not stated where this MS was aquired and
unclear as to where one prepares more than one Thesis for a Masters) One might assume logically that "ms" means Master of Science.
Unclear as to whether this "mini thesis" was in support of a MS in Poli Sci possibly claimed or if an additional MS degree in something else as one does not get an MS San Jacinto. ( Apologies, but certain parts of Watie's story are difficult to decipher)
Army ROTC / Joined Army in 1969-74. then to Grad School 1974-1979 but also did Grad school at Tulane in 1976-1978
apparently attending Auburn Grad School concurrent to attendance at Tulane. Somehow during this same period of 1976 -1977 he
was assigned as an advisor with a TXARNG unit with a "Squadron" of M-60 tanks. Maybe part of a Master's Thesis - not sure.
Not sure why Army service was listed as 1969-1974 but could refer to actual AD service period (ref. note 2 below)
Military Service:
1) 20.5 or 25 (depending on the post) years of AUS service as MP/Provost Marshal/specializing in spec ops/counter-guerrilla training, RAP/RAS/division MP ops, VN & Gulf War Vet MOCS 1542 & 31D35. At one time assigned to US Army Crim Investig Command
2) These 20.5 or 25 years seem to emcompass Reserve Duty and AD
3) Carried a sawed off 12 gauge shotgun on duty overseas allegedly as an MP and in direct violation of Military Regulations.
4) Dual Military Occupational Specialties as 31D35 (military police/miltary intelligence) and 1542 (Aviation Adjutant General's corp)
5) Former US Army Criminal Investigations Division assignment. USACIDC
6) Former "LEO" who refers to another LEO as "the idiot in blue, with badge & gun" recalling an alleged incident at the Pentagon
7) Has been anticipating a CONTUS callup to Iraq for AD since at least as far back as December 2003. Seemingly from 2 weeks to 120 days from happening.
This callup would be for a 58-60 year old vet who was retired due to disability.
As of September 2004 still no callup but his business partner and he are awaiting a "security services contract" anytime now that will result in his trip to Iraq.
Said contract apparently has not yet materialized but he is currently (Fall 2005) stating he expects to get his CONTUS orders soon. He has a Master Jailer's Certificate which he hopes to put to good use.
8) 1970-1971 was both in Zwiebrucken, Germany while also being in Texas in 1971 with the TXARNG undergoing testing for his Expert Infantry Badge.
9) 1991-1992 was stationed presumably AD in Venezuela which fits the 25 year service claim but during the very same time period was called up from retired reserve (medical disability) for duty from the retired reserve, "when the 1st bugle blew" to go fight in the Gulf War (official battle engagement date Jan 17, 1991) thus again being half a world away at the same time.
Additional Claims:
1) He is writing a book which will be out in spring or summer of 2005 not sure of topic but perhaps about General Sherman. unsure as to new release date as of Fall 2005.
2) Has an uncle with 2 different names ie: "Wayne Thomas Bankhead" and renamed "William Thomas Bankhead" both listed as PO3s on the USS Champion during WW2.
3) Former member of NAACP until Indians were "kicked out" for being too conservative. This from an organization that never has denied membership to any color or creed,
4) Former member of SCLC were he "knew" both Dr. M.L. King and Jesse Jackson so well he knows what Dr. King personally thought of Jackson. further claims he knew Coretta and MLK's father.
5) His Father knew, liked and was a member of Col. P. Tibbets B-29 flight crew days before the Enola Gay's best "ride".
6) A friend of his named James ____ designed the A-10 Warthog Close Air Support Sled ..... apparently by himself as no other credit is noted.
7) His Army quartersmate was Capt. Damon Runyon relative of the famous author/playwright of the same name.
8) He once had ALL of the active and retired Swiss Military Generals at his home at the same time. All of them. 9) He was a Boy Scout and of course reached Eagle Scout level.
10) His mother recieved a Commendation letter of appreciation from an unamed commanding general "for her assistence (sic) of a vast but incalculable amount to the deployment & troop support effort during Operation Desert Storm".
11) He met Eddie Rickenbacker's (WWI ace) wingman when Watie was 17 years old.
12) At 16 years old (1964) he was the Campaign Manager for a "Bill Miller" who was running for 1st Congressional District of TX (from a Zell Miller thread so not sure of the link there as Zell Miller himself ran for Congress that same year in Georgia)
13) Mantains a Confederate sniper snorked a Union Lt from 1600 yards with mid 1800's hardware and that 1600 yards is "more than a mile" thus pointing out that 1600 > 1760.......but math appears not to be one of his undergraduate or graduate courses of study.
14) Once when investigating a homicide he parked his vehicle seemingly directly over or on top of "a LIVE 250 pound general purpose bomb!" and even more amazing is that when he returned to his vehicle to use his radio, a bystander said "UH, captain, before you move your jeep, you oughta look under the right front tire." This bystander amazingly either was close enough to observe this bomb and know what it was and obtuse enough to allow another unsuspecting person to walk right up to that dangerous situation.
Bill Miller was Barry Goldwater's Vice Presidential candidate.
it's just another case you you being a person "who knows NOT & knows NOT that he knows NOT". OR perhaps in addition to being a DY, you are also a DIMocRAT on FR trying to masquerade as a conservative, perhaps????
and your "cyber-stalking" of me (& your obvious lack of understanding of what you "learned") also marks you as a hate-FILLED creature that should go out and "get a life".
sorry, but that too seems to be FACT!
free dixie,sw
OR you could head over to DU & sup with the other DIMwits, HATERS, lunatics & DIMocRATS, who used to be FReepers & members of the "DY coven": whisky papa, who is john galt,cvn76, #3fan & a HOST of other hate-FILLED arrogant DYs.
nobody here will miss you, with the possible exception of the "nameless/lifeless, SHUNNED one", who is also hate-FILLED.
could it be that you are one of "those unfortunate creatures", in another guise?? they were FOND of calling FReepers, who were FAR smarter & better read than they were, "losers" & "liars".
frankly, i PITY you for being just another HATER and for being a DAMNyankee.
free dixie,sw
SADLY, all too many of the coven's members-in-good-standing are also either clueLESS and/or ignorant BIGOTS, who just can't stand not being "kowtowed to", no matter how ludicrous their UNfounded opinions.
challenge ANYTHING they believe and they respond with "name-calling", hysterical denials of OBVIOUS facts, thought/logic-FREE sneering/ridicule,& (all too often, with anti-southern and/or RACIST) rantings.
free dixie,sw
1. one said that John Singleton Mosby was the CIC of the "slave-owners army" (he was,of course,a COL of partisan rangers.)
2. one maintained that the Fredericksburg & Chancellorsville occurred in MS & AL.(that will be a REAL surprise to the National Park Service!)
3.one said that BG Stand Watie was "a notorious trader to the Cherokees". (i THINK that he may have meant "traitor", though that in itself is an IGNORANT, SILLY position.)
4.one said (i think it was cvn76) that "every rebel in the country should have been exterminated in 1865".
5. one cannot tell the difference in a BOOK REVIEW in a magazine & THE BOOK itself.
6.one said that "all redskins" are a bunch of drunks, idiots & welfare-cheats.
7. one said that he believes that NOBODY in NY makes "Antisemitic statements any more".
8. one evidently thinks that everything on the "worldwidewierd" is FACTUAL, FAIR & complete AND that anything he can't find on the "www" NEVER happened.
and then you wonder why MOST FReepers avoid conversing with "the coven members" as if they were passing out free cases of the Avian Flu???
free dixie,sw
Good for you. The Tsalagiyi Nvdagi promote membership among those who claim to have Indian ancestry but do not qualify as Native American under Federal law. For $10 and a SASE anyone can become a member of this tribe. Sounds like a good fit for you.
Maybe you can teach at their "university" also...
All you gotta do is prove that the book exists, Watie. That's all. One link to a library catalog. One link to a second-hand bookseller's listing. One academic footnote. Until then, though, it goes down as a lie, especially since what you claim the book said--that there's a privateer-captured WW2 U-Boat in display in a Galveston park--was such an obvious fabrication.
I'd also like to see some evidence that the book "The Annals of Old Missouri" exists, too. You'd think the Missouri historical society or one of the state universities would have it, but apparently not.
You misrepresent the quote. It is from "Charleston's Maritime Heritage. It was referring to the Eastern trade routes, not the Gulf.
Not at all. You simply have no facts to refute the data, and you resort to personal attacks. Won't work here.
"Then by what certainty do you declare that "st. ship" means steam boat?"
I did not claim that
""st. ships" meaning steam boats only works if the number of steam boat arrivals in N.O. were one-tenth of what multiple sources point to them being. Do you really believe that less than one steam boat a day docked at New Orleans?"
Go ahead and run off another bunny path with your speculation. See the tables for the data.
"I have data from the same reports that you submitted, but found on different tables than the ones you directed readers to. Are you claiming that your source is reliable when it supports your arguments, but unreliable when it supports mine?"
That is what you are trying to insinuate by misreading the data, then attributing the error to me. Sorry, won't work.
See the data table.
Hey, guess what I did on my lunch hour! I wandered over to the library near my office (mostly to check out the "Friends of the Library" book sale), and went to the periodical department. Turns out they had a whole collection of "Motor Boating and Sailing" magazines in bound volumes, including the December, 1972 edition. And on page 46, "The Picket Patrol--Yachts Against Subs" by L.B.N. Gnaedinger. Guess what! It's not a book review! Actually, after three paragraphs of italicized intro material, it says: "What follows is a record of the background and some personal memories of this curious patrol. The men who reminisce here are laconic and modest--they obviously don't see themselves as heroes. We disagree. --Editor."
As soon as I get a chance, I'll scan the copies I made (not very good, given crummy library copiers and the difficulty of copying from a thick bound book, but they get the idea across) and I'll post them for everyone to enjoy.
You still haven't shown how the regulations of warehousing laws harmed the south. The warehousing laws simply made it possible for importers to delay paying the tariff on goods by holding them in bonded warehouses until they had a buyer. And the fact that foreign flagged ships comprised a solid third of all ships entering US ports from overseas shows that the navigation acts didn't have nearly the deleterious effect that you claim.
The quotes on shipping and the comments on the impact on Southern trade have been concerning the East coast trade system, primarily the ports of Norfolk through Savannah.
Again, your contentions aren't supported by the data. In 1859, Charleston saw just shy of 130,000 tons of shipping enter the port from foreign countries. Combine the numbers for Savannah and Charleston and it's the fourth busiest in the US in international traffic--not mere coastal traffic.
That fact that is that every claim you've made for some sort of economic conspiracy against the south falls on its face in the light of the data.
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