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To: dimquest
Lordy, Lordy. When I state what the law is, in western Carolina where I live, that does NOT MEAN THAT I AGREE WITH THAt LAW. I disagree on constitutional grounds with many of the gun grabbing statutes in many jurisdictions across the country.

All I am saying is that those laws are in place. And they will remain in place until they are slapped down by the Supreme Court, which has shown no inclination to date to enforce the 2nd Amendment.

Now, switching to New Orleans, IF AND ONLY IF martial law has been declared, the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply there. Neither would the 1st Amendment, the 4th, the 5th, or any other. I've heard conflicting reports on whether martial law has been declared, and about who is doing what inside that City.

Until I have accurate information, I am expressing no more opinions about "law enforcement" in New Orleans. Everything I've said to date started with this phrase, "IF martial law has been declared...." Entirely too many people ran right through that warning sign and assumed I "agreed" with "what was being done."

I am through quarreling with folks about things I was very careful NOT to say. When I see, with my own eyes, a copy of a duly executed Declaration of Martial Law, I'll comment further. Until then, count me out of this discussion.

John / Billybob

632 posted on 09/09/2005 8:07:15 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Mayor Nagin is personally responsible for 6 times the American deaths as the Iraq War.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Congressman Billybob wrote:

Until the Supreme Court acts differently on the 2nd Amendment, gun permits will remain legal in many jurisdictions, including Western Carolina where I live.

You're claiming that State infringements ["gun permits"] will "remain legal" until the USSC acts 'incorporating' the 2nd Amendment, correct?

All I am saying is that those laws are in place. And they will remain in place until they are slapped down by the Supreme Court, which has shown no inclination to date to enforce the 2nd Amendment.

So until slapped down by Court 'incorporation', those laws are valid? States are not bound to obey the "law of the land"?

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Of course, gun ownership has nothing to do with the current legality of guns in any jurisdiction. D.C. forbids law-abiding citizens from owning guns.

And you agree that State & local governments can prohibit/regulate owning & bearing arms, correct?
Thus the current actions of New Orleans 'authorities' are, in your view, constitutionally legal?

Now, switching to New Orleans, IF AND ONLY IF martial law has been declared, the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply there.

A declaration of 'martial law' suspends the 2nd and allows confiscation? Sorry, but I don't believe that opinion can be supported by referring to our Constitution.

Neither would the 1st Amendment, the 4th, the 5th, or any other. I've heard conflicting reports on whether martial law has been declared, and about who is doing what inside that City. Until I have accurate information, I am expressing no more opinions about "law enforcement" in New Orleans.

I'd suggest you also do more research on the constitutional aspects of martial law..

644 posted on 09/09/2005 8:56:28 AM PDT by dimquest
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