Posted on 09/08/2005 1:16:11 PM PDT by Politicalities
""It was the International Committee of the Red Cross, not the American Red Cross.""
thanks. So they are the ones who were able to get food/whatever to the inmates in Gitmo within 24 hours, but for issues like 11 september the funds were held up for years? Just asking because I don't know. I would still like to think of the Red Cross (American) as a worthy organization.
Okay, I'll buy that. She deliberately and willfully made conditions worse, with the predictable result that people died, and to which result she was depravedly indifferent.
Well now this kinda fits with FEMA not being notified of the situation at the Convention Center..looks like LA didn't want these people getting food and water there either..what wee they supposed to do, evacuate themslves on foot?
Besides the 500 buses that were not utilized, how many port a pottis were available in NO and were not used? Articles prior to the hurricane indicated everyone knew if NO flooded the sewers would back up and the toilets at the SD would not work..I wonder why they weren't trucked into the SD before the storm and after?
THAT was the International Red Cross. Domestic Red Cross didn't do that.
I believe I saw that a few years back they sheltered some of the "mere" citizens from a hurricane in the Superdome and it got trashed. Couldn't have that again...
Ok everyone please do not take this as a way for me to think Nagin is off the hook, either way he is guilty in my book.
That being said are we sure that all these decisions about not enforcing a mandatory evac for NO in the begining was Nagins idea... We have been witness over the days since Katrina came through of Nagin trying to do certain things within the city & Blanco shooting him down in public.
So the question I think that also needs to be asked & explored is this..., Did Blanco tell Nagin not to do the evac in the first place & then tell him to order it only after President Bush called her telling her to tell nagin to do so. Did she do/set things in motion beforehand to be able to lay blame elsewhere (on Nagin) if things went bad.
Like I said I'm not excusing Nagin one bit cause to me keeping ppl alive is more important then anything else, including my job. All I am saying is that Blanco has shown herself to be an extreme control freak & given that fact there may be much more that happened before Katrina came ashore then we know that could make this even more sickening then one would want to believe it could be.
I think this is whay Hitlary wants fema back. She thinks IF she becomes president she can use FEMA the way NO used the Levy Boards to suck money out of the public coffers.
Its an ISSUE not the solution.
Fema did what it was SUPPOSED to do. the Gov of LA acted as a bottleneck.
Compare LA to AL and Miss.
even FL's last FIVE storms.
I'm inclined to agree, Blanco is the one pulling the strings. The question is, who is pulling Blanco's strings?
Trying out my sporty new tagline...
Someone with standing would have had to bring a suit, but that would have meant someone within the state of LA doing it. The feds couldn't do it for them.
I really wish we had a tape recording of blanco's telephone conversations with the feds. They would be "special."
Oh man, I can only imagine! I'm sure most of the conversations had to do with getting the federal checks cut as fast as possible.
I liked it when Rush was talking about Mary Landriew (sp?) quoting Bush saying no one knew the levees would break and then saying everyone else knew they would...While she was talking I kept thinking (what Rush pointed out) that if she knew about this and was a US senator and did nothing she should be held to higher responsibility.
I am not a hysteric. On the contrary, I pride myself on being coldly rational. I almost never question my opponents' motives. That's a Democrat thing... hang out on a Democratic message board for awhile and you'll quickly discover that they don't merely believe that their opponents are wrong, misguided, or incompetent, they believe their opponents are evil.
I don't do that. Patrick Leahy, Charles Schumer, Robert Byrd, Nancy Pelosi, these are all people I despise, but I never for a minute question their good intentions. I'm sure that every one of them firmly believes that their policies would be best for America. They're wrong, of course, hopelessly and utterly and pathetically wrong, but they still are doing what they think is right.
But in this case, I don't need to question Blanco's motives, because she's made them crystal clear. The Red Cross was kept away because they were bringing food and water to the hungry and thirsty, and Blanco's administration did not want the hungry and thirsty to be sated. They wanted the people to stay miserable so they'd leave. That's their motive, explicitly stated, without apparently even a shred of shame. And it's nauseating.
CHRIS ROBERTS, Jefferson Parish Council: We have to rely on assistance from the American Red Cross. We have to rely on assistance from FEMA. And quite frankly, we're not impressed at how quickly they've been able to respond to our requests.
rit, freerepublic.com We understand, we have compassion for your plight, we continue to help, and we know your governor can answer why the Red Cross was not there.... she turned them away.
your hillary comment may be dead on (a very scary thought, but if you know her, a strategy which is completely feasible for her)
The rest you have written I agree 100%
She gains more power, and any way you look at it, we all lose big time, we being those who work for a living, pay our own way and remember the American Dream...
Yup the libs in USENET already spinning. Time to Freep them!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_frm/thread/a9a85c987e7ae19d/c3e0c648f8cc5386?hl=en#c3e0c648f8cc5386
You're not an operative for the Int'l Red Cross, are you?, by the way?
Uh, the reason it is not all out there? Let me count the ways, ways, ways, ways, ways, ad nauseam.
Nagin had & has the power to call for an evacuation within his city. IOW, he didn't & doesn't have the power to send people & assets outside of the city. He needed/needs the state to evacuate people to areas outside of his jurisdiction. When people can & do evacuate on their own, their individual choice overcomes Nagin's limits on jurisdiction.
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