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Multiple failures caused relief crisis (School buses shown and evac plan mentioned)
BBC News ^ | Monday, 5 September 2005 | Paul Reynolds

Posted on 09/07/2005 8:49:35 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares

AMAZING! Of course they Bush bash still, some ol same ol, but look at this....

The evacuation

It was announced at a news conference by the Mayor Ray Nagin on Sunday 28 August, less than 24 hours before the hurricane struck early the next morning.

The question has to be asked: Why was it not ordered earlier?

The Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco said at the same news conference that President Bush had called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation.

The night before, National Hurricane Director Max Mayfield had called Mayor Nagin to tell him that an evacuation was needed. Why were these calls necessary?

School buses still lined up after the hurricane

Again, as with Fema, the New Orleans mayor should have known that on the Saturday, Katrina was strengthening to Five.

It was already clear on the Sunday that the evacuation would not cover many of the poor, the sick and those who did not pay heed.

The mayor said people going to the Superdome, a sports venue named as an alternative destination for those unable to leave, should bring supplies for several days. He also said police could commandeer any vehicle for the evacuation.

But how much support was there at the Superdome? And how much city transport was actually used? There is a photo showing city school buses still lined up, in waterlogged parking lots, after the hurricane.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update: a reader has pointed out that there are detailed plans for Louisiana and the City of New Orleans for an evacuation and these make it clear that buses should be used to transport those without cars. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There are questions for the mayor, dubbed heroic by some, to answer.

Me talking again...Heroic? BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: buses; eop; katrina; nagin
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1 posted on 09/07/2005 8:49:36 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I agree with Hillary, let's have a investigation!

One thing though, Nagin and Blanco can not sit on the investigation committee!

2 posted on 09/07/2005 8:52:46 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Before this is all over, there may be criminal charges for the Mayor to answer. Just what did happen to all that Fed Homeland Security money given to the State of LA and the City of NO since 9-11 to equip 1st Responders and prepare Disaster Contingency Plans?


3 posted on 09/07/2005 8:53:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If it is all Bush's fault, why will Gov Blanco still not let the Feds take over?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Interesting. looks like the truth is getting out.

It may well be that the Democrats will end up looking worse in the end than if they hadn't started the blame game.

I wish all this energy could be used instead to help the victims, rather than point fingers. But there it is.


4 posted on 09/07/2005 8:54:34 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Closer scrutiny reveals the lies surrounding Katrina evacuation and recovery

By Linda Prussen-Razzano
web posted September 5, 2005

Having lived on Long Island for most of my life, I weathered only the most minor effects of hurricanes. Typically, their devastating strength drained along the coastline as they churned northwards. When I was a child, my father comforted me through Hurricane Belle; not by holding me and telling me everything would be alright, but by his activity in securing our house, his purchase of supplies and preparations, and his explanations of hurricanes and their threats.

While the storm whipped overhead, my piqued curiosity prompted me to ask about all different kinds of natural disasters. We passed the time discussing typhoons, tornadoes, earthquakes, and floods. I never thought I would use this information, but I did; twice.

At 19, my passenger and I found ourselves caught in the only flash flood in the history of Long Island. What started as a heavy rain became an overwhelming downpour within minutes. Not unlike the City of New Orleans, the patch of road on which I traveled was nestled in a natural funnel. In the space of minutes, we experienced more rain in that small bit of road alongside Eisenhower Park than all of Long Island had received in a year. With traffic surrounding me, I had not choice but to inch forward to the overpass that would take me to higher ground. Just moments before my car cleared the water now pouring in under my doors, the engine stalled, and my Monte Carlo sank back down the embankment, eventually to be completely submerged.

We had to wait until the water rose inside the car and the pressure stabilized before we could get out.

The gas pumps at the corner station began bubbling up, turning the water so black you couldn’t see your hand just two inches under the surface. An elderly man, trapped in his car, didn’t want to leave. Plodding through chest deep water, my passenger and I managed to get his door open and help him slog back to safety.

Everyone caught in that mess experienced a loss, but it is nothing compared to Katrina.

The second time I used my father’s sage advice came when I moved to Texas. In the bottom tip of the tornado belt, I knew what to do when the sky turned an ominous shade of green, the clouds started rotating above my head, and where to seek shelter to maximize my potential for living. It was in those few moments, when the doors and windows rattled and I imagined that my new house would be reduced to kindling around me, that all my priorities changed…forever.

The folks in Louisiana and Mississippi experienced wide scale devastation during Katrina. New Orleans, and other parts of the coast, experienced a second, even more devastating blow from the horrible flooding. One is bad enough, but both? It’s a catastrophe beyond comprehension, and our fellow Americans need our compassion, our generosity, and our understanding as they rebuild their entire lives.

We should be coming together, as we did after other catastrophic events in the last decade, to help and heal.

Sadly, that is not the case.

What I find astonishing is the almost immediate response from Bush Bashers to blame everything that happened, from the actual hurricane itself, to the anarchy that quickly erupted, on the President and his administration. When they do so, they not only distort the truth, they outright lie to the public, and they are doing so daily through any media venue that will give them the opportunity.

Lie #1: President Bush doesn’t care about the people of New Orleans.

This outrageous lie is thoroughly debunked by the fact that it was President Bush who pushed for a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans.(1) Governor Blanco issued only a voluntary evacuation order, but admitted that she received a call from the President on August 27, 2005, urging her to make it a mandatory one. He wanted as many people as possible out of the path of the storm.

So much for the President not caring.

Despite the fact that New Orlean’s own Emergency Response Guidelines call for a mandatory evacuation of the City if a strike by a Category 3 Hurricane is projected, with 72 hours advance notice to all residents, Mayor Nagin didn’t order a mandatory evaluation until Sunday. Further, he only did so after Max Maxfield, the National Hurricane Director, called Nagin at his home to plead that he empty the City. (2)

Why did Nagin wait so long? He was worried about the legalities. If people want to affix blame, perhaps they can look at lawyers.

How ironic, that The Drudge Report (3) and Free Republic (4) have pictures of dozens of New Orleans’ submerged and now useless school buses, buses that could have been used to transport residents out of the City prior to the storm, bring in supplies after the storm, and help evacuees escape the flooding. Meanwhile, Governor Blanco issued a request to the State of Louisiana to provide her with buses from local school districts.

According to a Washington Post report on Sunday, September 4, “Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.”

Bush’s offer to have the federal government aid in the evacuation was rejected. (5)

Lie #2: The Bush Administration was slow in coordinating help.

Mike Brown, Under Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security for Emergency Response and Preparedness, received the order from President Bush on August 27, two full days before the storm hit the region, to prepare for Katrina disaster relief. (6) The President also declared the entire region under a State of Emergency, so that FEMA could coordinate efforts at the request of the Governors. (7) Under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact, the Federal Government and FEMA are not allowed to interfere with local operations unless they are authorized by state and local leaders.

Blanco did not authorize this until September 1, 2005.

Further, according to an Association Press report on August 30, “The federal government began rushing baby formula, communications equipment, generators, water and ice into hard-hit areas of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, along with doctors, nurses and first-aid supplies. The U.S. Defense Department sent experts to help with search-and-rescue operations.” (8) FEMA was there and helping, in the capacity that was allowed by local officials, but could not swing into full gear until after Blanco gave them permission.

Lie #3: The Bush Administration did nothing to control the anarchy.

The local and state governments have control over law enforcement activities in their state, and such activities could only be coordinated through the federal government with their permission. It was not until terrible reports of rapes and violence, videos of looting, and reports of shoots being fired at rescue workers did Governor Blanco relinquish any claim of control on an out-of-control city.

An August 31, 2005 Fox News Report reveals, “The looting prompted authorities to send more than 70 additional officers and an armed personnel carrier into the city. One police officer was shot in the head by a looter but was expected to recover, authorities said. Blanco said she will ask President Bush for military troops to help keep looting under control.” (9) Almost immediately thereafter, FEMA, the military, and the Bush Administration began to restore order.

Further, on September 2, 2005, the Bush administration “sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law.” (10)

Lie #4: The Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the flooding.

Predictions of wide spread devastation have been known since Hurricane Camille in 1969. Despite these, it was local officials who reportedly appropriated funds designated for levee improvements towards such necessary purchases as a casino, hotel, and other projects.

Amazing, isn’t it?

From the carnage inside the Superdome, to the massacre of the truth on television, this is a sad time for all of America.

Just don’t forget who helped all this to happen….because despite what the media wants you to believe, it wasn’t President Bush.

Linda Prussen-Razzano is frequent contributor to Enter Stage Right and a number of other online magazines.

Footnotes:

1. Associated Press, “Mandatory Evacuation Ordered for New Orleans,” August 28, 2005, 10:48 a.m. CT.

2. Knight Ridder Newspapers, “National Hurricane Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out..." by Marc Caputo, David Ovalle, and Erika Bolstad, August 28, 2005

3. www.drudgereport.com

4. www.freerepublic.com

5. Washington Post, “Many Evacuated, but Thousands Still Waiting, White House Shifts Blame to State and Local Officials,” Manuel Roig-Franzia and Spencer Hsu, Washington Post Staff Writers, Sunday, September 4, 2005; Page A01

6. FEMA Press Release, “Emergency Aid Authorized For Katrina Emergency Response In LA” August 27, 2005

7. Associated Press, “Bush Declares Emergency in Louisiana,” August 27, 2005

8. Associated Press, “Federal Government sent emergency supplies to Louisiana as early as Tuesday,” August 30, 2005

9. Fox News.com, “It’s Not Safe In New Orleans,” August 31, 2005

10. Washington Post, Ibid


5 posted on 09/07/2005 8:55:51 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: MNJohnnie
I see prison inmates.
6 posted on 09/07/2005 8:56:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: TexasCajun
agree with Hillary, let's have a investigation! One thing though, Nagin and Blanco can not sit on the investigation committ

Me too. I suggest we put Rudy Guliani as Chair. He is a former Prosecutor and a former Mayor of a City that went thur this drill. Let's have a look, starting with the 1st Responders (City of NO) then have a look at the 2nd Responders (State of LA) then looking at the 3rd Responders (The Feds). Let's go step by step thur this whole system and FIX it rather then just staging another useless partisan show trial like the 9-11 Commission

7 posted on 09/07/2005 8:57:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If it is all Bush's fault, why will Gov Blanco still not let the Feds take over?)
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To: Travis McGee

They actually showed the buses on our LOCAL news here in Seattle yesterday!


8 posted on 09/07/2005 8:58:20 AM PDT by Clemenza (Need new tagline)
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To: cripplecreek

Very good!


9 posted on 09/07/2005 8:58:47 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: cripplecreek

LOL!!

Or: "I see a lot school busses. And Mayor doesn't know they're there."


10 posted on 09/07/2005 8:59:09 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: conservativecorner
NAILED it. Should be required reading for every "journalist" and pundit.
11 posted on 09/07/2005 9:00:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If it is all Bush's fault, why will Gov Blanco still not let the Feds take over?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Since your article is from the Beeb, I thought I'd pass this link to you as well. (I'm still a newbie, so I'm reluctant to post a whole new thread.) This article is about the US accepting aid donations from other countries. The reader comments at the end are the infuriating, though...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4215336.stm
12 posted on 09/07/2005 9:00:58 AM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: cripplecreek
I see prison inmates

OH That is FUNNY!

13 posted on 09/07/2005 9:01:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If it is all Bush's fault, why will Gov Blanco still not let the Feds take over?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Even the Beeb finally gets it.


14 posted on 09/07/2005 9:05:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Get on the Bus, Gus.


15 posted on 09/07/2005 9:16:06 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: cvq3842
It may well be that the Democrats will end up looking worse in the end than if they hadn't started the blame game.

That's what always happens. President Bush would have had the class to not point fingers. He would have been more interested in bringing the country together and the corruption would have probably escaped the country's notice. But the dems are insisting on the truth, so the truth they will get.

16 posted on 09/07/2005 9:17:30 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Global Dumbing far more serious threat than Global Warming)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
*rubs eyes*

What in the...

Are you SURE this the Beeb? That article was actually (dare I say it) fair!

17 posted on 09/07/2005 9:24:35 AM PDT by Connservative
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To: McGavin999

Yep. They always overplay their hand.

There were two letters in my local paper this morning, from leftist loonies. One said Bush sent us to Iraq for oil and so didn't have the resources to help in New Orleans, the other said he was taking this as an opportunity to deliberately let poor blacks die.

there may well be things to criticize about the federal response. but these people insist on saying the most ourtageous things that they lose all credibility. And the debate turns into whether Bush is a genocidal warmonger racist or not, rather than whether there is a better alternative plan out there.

I swear, in some ways these moonbats are Bush's best ally. Did Farenheit 911 help Kerry in the end, or Bush?


18 posted on 09/07/2005 9:37:10 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Have you noticed that all the houses in the aerial rescues have submerged cars parked in the front yards?
19 posted on 09/07/2005 9:43:02 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Along with the question of why the buses were not used to transport people away from NO, is the parallel one of who and where were the drivers for said buses. If the evacuation plan called for busing, there had to be drivers available. Perhaps the plan was to allow anybody with a drivers license to use their initiative to accept the responsibility for conveying citizens to safety.
20 posted on 09/07/2005 9:51:09 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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