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Gallup: little outrage, for Bush's ... response to hurricane (only 13% blame him)
Gallup ^ | 9/7

Posted on 09/07/2005 7:49:05 AM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon

September 07, 2005

Public Skeptical New Orleans Will Recover Criticism, but little outrage, for Bush's and federal agencies' response to hurricane

by David W. Moore

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

...

Despite widespread criticism of the response by Bush and, separately, the federal government, to the problems caused by the hurricane, the public seems on balance only mildly critical. Forty-two percent say Bush did a "bad" (18%) or "terrible" (24%) job, but 35% rate his response as either "great" (10%) or "good" (25%).

...

When asked to identify who was most responsible for the problems in New Orleans after the hurricane, 38% of Americans said no one was really to blame, while 13% cited Bush, 18% the federal agencies, and 25% state and local officials.

...

Few Americans feel that any top official in the agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be dismissed from office -- just 29% say someone should be fired, while 63% disagree.

(Excerpt) Read more at gallup.com ...


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To: AWest; Howlin; McGavin999
You got me, I'm a dim because I don't mindlessly follow propaganda from both sides.

NO, you are a democrat because you mindlessly follow the propaganda of THEIR side with ZERO consideration of the facts. If you ACTUALLY paid attention around here instead of coming to spew nonsense on behalf of your party bosses, you would know the facts. The facts have been posted pretty much NON stop since this started. You, however, refuse to learn anything because they do not fit your political ideology. Just because the truth doesn't fit your political opinions, does not change truth into "propaganda". So, no more tirades. I could care less about your "feelings". Stating your feelings as facts is a logical fallacy common to the Political Left. It does not wash here. Answer each of these questions I posted to you before. Here they are again. No more emotional tirades just facts.

How come you IGNORE the fact that Govt Blanco did NOT ask for any Federal Assistance until Wed Aug 31st according to HER, or Until Thur Sept 1st according to FEMA. ALL the Declaration of Emergency does is release Federal Disaster AID money to the State. It does NOT, as the Hysteric Leftist try to lie about it all over the web these days, Give the Feds control of the Local Govt's authority and responsibilities. The Govt of the STATE is still in charge of HOW the resources, particularly the NATIONAL GUARD, are used. FEMA advises the locals, they do not DIRECT the locals.

Please explain to me why the Sun Sept 4 WASHINTON POST (A pillar of DNC propaganda) reported that the President had ASKED to take over control, and Gov Blanco of Louisiana said, and is still saying, NO?

Why TODAY, if the 3rd Responder Feds are to blame and not the 1st Responders (City of NO) and 2ND Responders (State of Louisiana) is the MAYOR of New Orleans issuing order for evacuees to be removed by force if necessary? I thought the Feds were in charge of all this.

How is "This Administration" to blame for what the Gov and the Mayor are IN CHARGE OF?

A couple more questions to answer.

Why despite billions in Fed Homeland Security money pumped into the State of Louisiana and the City of NO to equip 1st Responders are both the City of NO Police and Fire Departments after 9-11 are both so woefully under equipped and staffed and in such lousy morale even BEFORE this disaster?

Why, despite the fact that FEMA tells states and localities that it can take anywhere from 72-96 hours for the Feds to get significant resources to them were both the City and State completely unable to meet even their most basic responsibilities?

For example, despite calling on the City to use City owned buses to evacuate those unable to move themselves out of the City as part of the Disaster Plan posted on the City of NO's OWN website, are all those buses still sitting in the City of NO's lot?

Despite actually planning to respond to EXACTLT this disaster, why did the City of NO and the State of Louisiana not meet even one of THEIR requirements under the plan?

181 posted on 09/07/2005 1:07:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Blaco say Wed Aug 31st, FEMA says Thur Sept 1st.. Who is lying?)
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To: bayourod
69% to 10%

Wonder what happned to the other 21%? They tried really hard to spike the "Neither Good Nor Bad response" since it totally undercut their spin line.

182 posted on 09/07/2005 1:10:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Blaco say Wed Aug 31st, FEMA says Thur Sept 1st.. Who is lying?)
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To: Soul Seeker

FYI

Blanco was just on FNC .. she is over ruling the Mayor's order for a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475465/posts?page=162#162


183 posted on 09/07/2005 1:12:49 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: MNJohnnie
Do you think the New York Times will cover this?

... Do you think ONE day they are MAGICALLY going to quit being DNC Propaganda Whores and ACTUALLY report the news? This mindset makes me wonder if you had lived in 1943, would you of been tuning into Radio Berlin and Tokyo Rose to get the "News"? Of Course not. So why do you listen to propagandists every bit as biased at the NY Lies?

Ummmm, it was, like, you know, sarcasm. I didn't really think they would cover it...

184 posted on 09/07/2005 1:15:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you will lie against you.)
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To: jveritas
This AWest is definitely a DUmmy troll. I do not know why the mods still have him or her around

He hasn't freaked yet. He will probably freak since I re-sent him my questions and told him to answer the questions instead of launching another emotion based tirade. It is so much fun to watch their brains melt when you make them answer the question instead of validate their emotional neediness by treating their rantings seriously. Either he will freak or run. Leftists are good at bailing as soon as they start losing the argument.

185 posted on 09/07/2005 1:15:44 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Blaco say Wed Aug 31st, FEMA says Thur Sept 1st.. Who is lying?)
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To: AWest
If there was food and water available, plus means of distributing them (helicopters), why wasn't it distributed ASAP instead of days after?

1. Because they have no way of knowing that the city plan was not being put into effect.

2. The convention center had no media until Thursday night and the following day they had both water and food.

3. The problems at the Superdome was not due to lack of food and water, it was due to flooding, sewage, and breakdown of law and order (the NO police were supposed to be in charge of that, and if they did not have enough personnel available, the state police, sheriffs etc.).

What would you have had the feds do? Send in clerks with guns blazing? Have the constitution violated? Ask American soldiers to violate their oath? Have the military enter a building with thousands of innocent people and a few bad guys and risk the lives of the innocents? They aren't trained for that, LEOs are.

186 posted on 09/07/2005 1:20:01 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press)
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To: MNJohnnie
He already lost the argument :)
187 posted on 09/07/2005 1:20:06 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Polybius

29 is awesome!


188 posted on 09/07/2005 1:23:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: GOPJ
I didn't really think they would cover it

I am sorry. Spend way too much time here! Going to go now and read a nice soothing book.

189 posted on 09/07/2005 1:24:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Blaco say Wed Aug 31st, FEMA says Thur Sept 1st.. Who is lying?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Why is it that you're asking me to defend the Louisiana locals when I've never done anything of the sort? I'm not letting Blanco off the hook, I'm just not letting this administration off the hook either. Why is it that you won't answer my question? And you mention billions of dollars being pumped into New Orleans to equip first responders, care to back that up with any proof? I've read of many requests for mere MILLIONS to reinforce the levees which were breached years before this disaster occured, which was never received. So, how about posting some FACTS with regards to that. Also, if an emergency declaration was declared on the 26th (according to the White House) and FEMA takes anywhere from 72 to 96 hours (it takes that long to provide essential support to a disaster? Did it take that long on 9/11?), why is it that nothing was seen on a Federal level until the 2nd? As for the buses, you're damn right they should have been put to use. That could have been another few hundred people rescued or put out of harms way, but nothing in comparison with what a fully coordinated Federal effort could have been capable of. Get off your high horse.


190 posted on 09/07/2005 1:28:29 PM PDT by AWest
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To: MNJohnnie

Neither freaking or running, and you've still yet to answer my questions. Instead, you seem intent to pose questions which don't need to be asked. You're asking me to defend Louisiana's 'leadership'? Why? This was a royal screwup on all levels. I'll wait for a response, but sanctimonious idealogues are good at bailing as soon as they start losing an argument.


191 posted on 09/07/2005 1:37:32 PM PDT by AWest
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To: AWest
You may ask questions after you have answered mine. I asked them 1st. I will answer your question once YOU answer mine. Trying to defect the discussion by asking questions of the questioner instead of answering the questions put to you is ANOTHER common Logical fallacy used by the Hysteric Left. Answer the questions.


How come you IGNORE the fact that Govt Blanco did NOT ask for any Federal Assistance until Wed Aug 31st according to HER, or Until Thur Sept 1st according to FEMA. ALL the Declaration of Emergency does is release Federal Disaster AID money to the State. It does NOT, as the Hysteric Leftist try to lie about it all over the web these days, Give the Feds control of the Local Govt's authority and responsibilities. The Govt of the STATE is still in charge of HOW the resources, particularly the NATIONAL GUARD, are used. FEMA advises the locals, they do not DIRECT the locals.

Please explain to me why the Sun Sept 4 WASHINTON POST (A pillar of DNC propaganda) reported that the President had ASKED to take over control, and Gov Blanco of Louisiana said, and is still saying, NO?

Why TODAY, if the 3rd Responder Feds are to blame and not the 1st Responders (City of NO) and 2ND Responders (State of Louisiana) is the MAYOR of New Orleans issuing order for evacuees to be removed by force if necessary? I thought the Feds were in charge of all this.

How is "This Administration" to blame for what the Gov and the Mayor are IN CHARGE OF?

A couple more questions to answer.

Why despite billions in Fed Homeland Security money pumped into the State of Louisiana and the City of NO to equip 1st Responders are both the City of NO Police and Fire Departments after 9-11 are both so woefully under equipped and staffed and in such lousy morale even BEFORE this disaster?

Why, despite the fact that FEMA tells states and localities that it can take anywhere from 72-96 hours for the Feds to get significant resources to them were both the City and State completely unable to meet even their most basic responsibilities?

For example, despite calling on the City to use City owned buses to evacuate those unable to move themselves out of the City as part of the Disaster Plan posted on the City of NO's OWN website, are all those buses still sitting in the City of NO's lot?

Despite actually planning to respond to EXACTLT this disaster, why did the City of NO and the State of Louisiana not meet even one of THEIR requirements under the plan?
192 posted on 09/07/2005 1:38:19 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Blaco say Wed Aug 31st, FEMA says Thur Sept 1st.. Who is lying?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wow, you just don't get it do you. Yes, Blanco should have requested help from the Gov't before she did, did I ever defend Blanco? Does that mean that the Gov't is absolved of all responsibility until it receives a formal request? Give me a break. If Giuliani hadn't requested assistance on September 11th, did that mean that the Bush administration didn't have to do anything but wait for people to die en masse? This is a ridiculous argument. Now, as for the WAPO article, don't you think Louisiana could have used that assistance WHILE people were dying and in desperate need of help. Why is the Mayor of N.O. issuing orders for evacuees to be removed by force? Well, primarily because the area is a disease infested cess pool. If the Feds were going about this, it wouldn't be incumbent upon local authorities. So, just when does the administration become accountable? Now, having answered all of your questions that never begged to be answered, care to answer any of MY questions?


193 posted on 09/07/2005 1:54:36 PM PDT by AWest
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon

yet many freepers(?) still want Brown thrown overboard


194 posted on 09/07/2005 1:54:55 PM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: MNJohnnie

Now that I've answered your questions:
You mention billions of dollars being pumped into New Orleans to equip first responders, care to back that up with any proof?

I've read of many requests for mere MILLIONS to reinforce the levees which were breached years before this disaster occured, which was never received. So, how about posting some FACTS with regards to that.

Also, if an emergency declaration was declared on the 26th (according to the White House) and FEMA takes anywhere from 72 to 96 hours (it takes that long to provide essential support to a disaster? Did it take that long on 9/11?), why is it that nothing was seen on a Federal level until the 2nd?

As for the buses, you're damn right they should have been put to use. That could have been another few hundred people rescued or put out of harms way, but nothing in comparison with what a fully coordinated Federal effort could have been capable of. Are you suggesting that thousands couldn't have been saved if a coordinated Federal effort had been put in place in time? Helicopters used wherever possible to lift people out of that insanity? Helicopters used to drop food and water when it was necessary (no, I don't mean yesterday). A military presence in place to keep a semblance of order. Lemme guess, it was too dangerous or difficult for them to get in? The most well trained and efficient military in the world and somehow they weren't able to tread where the intrepid reporters of CNN were? Are you planning on answering these questions or just posing more of your own?


195 posted on 09/07/2005 2:04:43 PM PDT by AWest
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I just watched my local NBC news here in NYC.

What pissed me off was they were showing the flooded buses and saying why didn't FEMA use them. OMG! Don't tell me their going to get away with that BS!!!!!!!

PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


196 posted on 09/07/2005 2:16:37 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
I think the Dim Bulbs are already back to the'' Downing Street Memo'' and'' Sin She-Ham.'' But I haven't lost my faith in them. I'ts getting to be just about that time that the idiot Conyers announces emergency ''basement hearings'' are going to be held to find out why nobody provided Sean Pean with more paper cups to bail his boat out after it sunk.................in their words ''THIS IS HUGE''!
197 posted on 09/07/2005 2:17:47 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: AWest

Sigh.....Well, time for me to head home. Feel free to use this time to call me a myriad of names, or you could actually address my questions. Perhaps you'll just put more blame on a city in ruins rather than look to where damage could have been prevented. Surprise me.


198 posted on 09/07/2005 2:20:16 PM PDT by AWest
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To: AWest

don't go away mad...


199 posted on 09/07/2005 2:33:31 PM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: .cnI redruM
When will they learn?  Despite almost constant Bush bashing, few people are listening to them.  The ones that voted against him are the ones who have always hated him ... just for being a republican.

It's gotta suck to realize you are no longer relevant.

200 posted on 09/07/2005 2:51:13 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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