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To: Salo

He gave to GWB too. Face it, you've already lost the point. I claimed he was middle of the road, and the evidence proves it. Guys like adam_az tried to selectively post only one side of the equation, and got busted for it. Gates gives to both.

He also speaks out against "communism". So does Ballmer. They condem it. There seems to be some disagreement on whether modern China is 100% communist, but they do realize the dangers of communism, and have spoken out against it. These are all facts that all your twisting and spinning can't deny.

The real issue is how you want to selectively attack MS but give IBM a complete pass on the issue. IBM has been dealing with China much longer than MS, literally GIVES technology to the Chicoms for free, has a much closer relationship with the Chicom government, and openly refers to the fascist leaders as their partners. It is a much bigger issue that has been known for a much longer time. I admit I am disapointed that MS is begining to follow IBM's lead.

I created a thread lamblasting Gates for his comments praising modern China. Yet the record clearly shows you have never once criticised IBM for much greater collusion with the Chicoms, ever. You've given them a complete pass, for much greater support of China, look at all the links above, including selling the IBM PC division to the Chicom government for a fraction of the value. Most obviously, Microsoft has never been fined by US government for illegal tech transfers, to anyone, but no one has any more than IBM. Yet not a peep out of you. That's all fine and dandy, apparently.

Bottom line, you seem to hate Bill Gates just as much as communists do. In fact you seem to have a lot in common with them. And don't blame me for stating facts, because as you know that's all I deal in.


106 posted on 09/08/2005 5:48:34 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

"He gave to GWB too. Face it, you've already lost the point. I claimed he was middle of the road, and the evidence proves it. Guys like adam_az tried to selectively post only one side of the equation, and got busted for it. Gates gives to both."

You are a filthy, revisionist liar, again.

You said that Gates is a big republican supporter - so I responded with examples of Dems he gave to.

"He also speaks out against "communism". So does Ballmer. They condem it."

NEITHER DOES. They both PRAISE the ChiComs. The Ballmer example you gave was a SATIRE article. I dare you to provide the links as a reply to this posting.

"There seems to be some disagreement on whether modern China is 100% communist,"

Then why do you care whether they use Linux, Trollbird? LOL - Gates has PRAISED the ChiComs. Gates praise ChiComs - there is some queastion as to whether they are communist - Gates good. ChiComs use Linux - bad. Chinese are commies! Make up your birdbrain.

"but they do realize the dangers of communism, and have spoken out against it."

GATES has praised communists as capitalists in an incredible feat of inversion, Ballmer has been mute.

"These are all facts that all your twisting and spinning can't deny."

POST THE QUOTES, SUCKER.


113 posted on 09/08/2005 6:09:25 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Golden Eagle

I created a thread lamblasting Gates for his comments praising modern China. Yet the record clearly shows you have never once criticised IBM for much greater collusion with the Chicoms, ever."

None of us have praised it, either, and I wouldn't call it "Far greater." IBM hasnt given China access to AIX sources, after all, have they? Meanwhile you support the Gates gun grabbiner dnc supporter to the hilt.

"You've given them a complete pass, for much greater support of China, look at all the links above, including selling the IBM PC division to the Chicom government for a fraction of the value."

1) The sale was APPROVED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. If you have a problem, take it out on Bush.

2) IBM doesn't sell anything for a fraction of it's value! They take their shareholder value very seriously. How about citing a source?

"Most obviously, Microsoft has never been fined by US government for illegal tech transfers, to anyone, but no one has any more than IBM."

Cite a souce? I think you just made this up. Can you cite even 3 or 4 examples, and a souce saying that IBM is the most cited company? That's the standard your statement held you up to!


"Bottom line, you seem to hate Bill Gates just as much as communists do."

The REAL Communists LOVE Gates. You know, the ChiComs who he praises as CAPITALISTS. You seem obsessed with what some idiots with a geocities page say in the abstract, while you hero BilGe praises them as capitalists in a feat of historic inversion.

"In fact you seem to have a lot in common with them. "

No, you do, what with your red herring non-answers.

"And don't blame me for stating facts, because as you know that's all I deal in."

lol you are such a joke. You deal in red herring non-answers. This would be a funny statement if it weren't so sad.

CITE THE SOURCES!


115 posted on 09/08/2005 6:17:09 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Golden Eagle

Microsoft moves 10,000 jobs to China, Lenovo hires 400 in the US at an avg of $75k.

http://newsobserver.com/business/story/2777333p-9215886c.html

The US Govt approved the Lenovo sale - there was no illegal tech transfer.


117 posted on 09/08/2005 6:25:16 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Golden Eagle
You lied. You said: Looks like more from Micrsoft typically goes to Republicans (post 53). Your lie was disproven (post 72). You tried to cover your lie with selective editing (post 76). Your lie was exposed by posting what you redacted in post 76 (post 84).

And you accuse adam_az of selective posting?

I've proven (again) you're a liar, Mr. Rather: MS gives more to Commiecrats than Republicans, which is what you said.

He gave to GWB too. Face it, you've already lost the point. I claimed he was middle of the road, and the evidence proves it. Guys like adam_az tried to selectively post only one side of the equation, and got busted for it.

121 posted on 09/08/2005 7:01:29 AM PDT by Salo (Those who believe the most in evolution are usually the first to complain about it taking its course)
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To: Golden Eagle
GE Said: "There seems to be some disagreement on whether modern China is 100% communist"

I am sooo holding onto this one thank you..

134 posted on 09/08/2005 8:37:16 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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