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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: nwctwx

I agree, and even if it doesn't stick to this forecast, it still looks destined to create trouble anyway. Needs to be watched.


921 posted on 09/05/2005 8:17:30 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: NautiNurse

WWL Updates as they come in on Katrina

10:09 AM CDT on Monday, September 5, 2005

Tom Planchet

CUT CUT

9:48 A.M. - Five Plaquemines schools have cancelled classes for all of 2005-06. Belle Chasse high schools are trying to open by January.

9:46 A.M. - Video from oil company spokesman shows total devastation in lower Plaquemines.

9:40 A.M. - NEW YORK (AP) -- With memories of the Sept. 11 attacks still vivid, hundreds of police officers and firefighters left New York City on Monday, bound for Louisiana.

CUT CUT

9:35 A.M. - (AP) A steady stream of reinforcements for police poured down interstate highways toward New Orleans on Monday -- long convoys of police cars, blue lights flashing, emblazoned with emblems from scattered police, sheriff, and other jurisdictions, in and out of state.

Mayor Ray Nagin, in a telephone interview on WWL radio, the city's linked emergency broadcast center, said he was arranging to rotate out the city officers who have been working virtually around the clock since before the storm hit.

He said they and their families would get five or more days in cities with large numbers of hotel rooms -- Atlanta and Las Vegas in particular. In addition to the police, firefighters and dispatchers will be included.


922 posted on 09/05/2005 8:17:46 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: easonc52; All

Dad, who worked as a clerk in the federal court system explained to me, when O'Connor put in her resignation, that if the CJ were to die his appointment would supercede that of O'Connor....There would be three appointments in this order.
1. Appoint replacement for a deceased member
2. Appoint the CJ
3. replace a retiring justice

IIRC there are time limits for 1 & 2.


923 posted on 09/05/2005 8:18:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: TexKat
In reponse to MSNBC anchor this morning Nagin stated that he is absolutely blown away at Chertnoff's comments that he (Chertnoff) was not aware of the people in need of evacuation at the convention center. Nagin says that he does not know if Chertnoff said that but if he did that was a doggone shame. Nagin stated that FEMA was there on the ground.

Both could be telling the truth, and it is a doggone shame that supplies were slow in coming.

Chertoff is head of DHS, and likely doesn't micromanage. Not sure what "FEMA on the ground" refers to, but it is highly likely that the Nat'l Guard at the Dome sent at least some people to the Convention Center. People "inside" knew - it was a matter of communications and logistics to get supplies where they were needed.

924 posted on 09/05/2005 8:18:42 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: NautiNurse

No recon scheduled yet to my knowledge. Though, it looks to be on its way to a depression. I wouldn't be surprised to see it become one this afternoon/evening. Fortunately, it's close to shore, so it won't have much time to develop before coming into FL. It's also going to have to go over more land than Katrina did... so, we'll see what exits.


925 posted on 09/05/2005 8:19:04 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


926 posted on 09/05/2005 8:19:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: sageb1
Sageb1,
Like your tag-line and am interested in more on cremation.
Thanks,
mc
927 posted on 09/05/2005 8:20:00 AM PDT by mcshot (Boldly going nowhere with a smile and appreciation for life.)
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To: NautiNurse
An open letter to the President

Excerpts from an editorial in Sunday's New Orleans Times-Picayune:

We heard you loud and clear Friday when you visited our devastated city and the Gulf Coast and said, "What is not working, we're going to make it right."

Please forgive us if we wait to see proof of your promise before believing you.

But we have good reason for our skepticism.

Bienville built New Orleans where he built it for one main reason: It's accessible.

The city between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain was easy to reach in 1718.

How much easier it is to access in 2005 now that there are interstates and bridges, airports and helipads, cruise ships, barges, buses and diesel-powered trucks.

Despite the city's multiple points of entry, our nation's bureaucrats spent days after last week's hurricane wringing their hands, lamenting the fact that they could neither rescue the city's stranded victims nor bring them food, water and medical supplies.

Meanwhile there were journalists, including some who work for The Times-Picayune, going in and out of the city via the Crescent City Connection.

On Thursday morning, that crew saw a caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers headed into town to bring food, water and supplies to a dying city.

Television reporters were doing live reports from downtown New Orleans streets.

Harry Connick Jr. brought in some aid Thursday.

Yet, the people trained to protect our nation, the people whose job it is to quickly bring in aid were absent.

Those who should have been deploying troops were singing a sad song about how our city was impossible to reach.

We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have been pumped dry.

Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not.

That's to the government's shame.

We, who are from New Orleans, are no less American than those who live on the Great Plains or along the Atlantic Seaboard.

We're no less important than those from the Pacific Northwest or Appalachia.

Our people deserved to be rescued.

No expense should have been spared.

No excuses should have been voiced. Especially not one as preposterous as the claim that New Orleans couldn't be reached.

Mr. President, we sincerely hope you fulfill your promise to make our beloved communities work right once again.

When you do, we will be the first to applaud.

The Times-Picayune, based in New Orleans, never stopped publishing during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The company fled its downtown office Tuesday and printed online editions of the paper until Friday when it resumed printing. The 16-page Friday paper was finished at the printing facilities of The Houma Courier, about 60 miles from New Orleans.

928 posted on 09/05/2005 8:20:45 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: nwctwx

Thanks - and please keep me posted.


929 posted on 09/05/2005 8:21:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: NautiNurse

Statement as of 11:30 am EDT on September 5, 2005

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico...
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Maria... located about 475 miles east of Bermuda.
A well-defined low pressure system located about 280 miles
south-southwest of Bermuda is moving slowly northwestward. This
system has not become any better organized over the past several
hours...but upper-level winds could become more favorable for
tropical cyclone formation over the next day or so.
A broad area of low pressure has remained nearly stationary just
off the southeastern coast of Florida and over the northwestern
Bahamas. This system has become slightly better organized this
morning...and a tropical depression could form in this area during
the next day or two. A NOAA hurricane hunter aircraft is scheduled
to investigate the system tomorrow..if necessary. Interests in the
Bahamas and Florida should monitor the progress of this system.
A tropical wave is approaching the Lesser Antilles...accompanied by
widely scattered showers and a few thunderstorms. Significant
development of this system is not expected over the next couple of
days as it continues moving westward at 15 to 20 mph.
Elsewhere...tropical storm formation is not expected through
Tuesday.
Forecaster Pasch


930 posted on 09/05/2005 8:21:20 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: WVNan
Where can I find his first three reports?

I got the account via personal email, not an FR thread. I know the guy thru the Society for Creative Anacronism.

931 posted on 09/05/2005 8:21:44 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: TexKat

Anyone listen to drudge last night -- he had an interview with Nagin where he explicitly ruled out using the airport or the conv center as a designated shelter. That was the night before the storm - Sunday. The poeple that went there remembered it had been used after other storms and just broke in.


932 posted on 09/05/2005 8:22:10 AM PDT by max_rpf
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To: nwctwx

I see Storm Floater #2 has it.


933 posted on 09/05/2005 8:22:12 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: TexKat

food and water was being brought to the convention center before the evac, pictures were posted on this thread at the time. the logistical details of what was needed to evacuate the convention center, I admit, some of that was confusing - but the helicopter airlift took time to setup according to general Honore's interview with Geraldo last night.


934 posted on 09/05/2005 8:22:51 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: toldyou
What should have been done by the federal government

Two questions I have been asking every single "journalist" I can get either email or phone number for

Do you know the lines of legal authority in a disaster like this from the 1st Responders (City of NO) to the 2nd Responders (State of New Orleans) to the 3rd Responders (The Federal Govt)? If this is "All the Feds fault" why is the State of Louisianan STILL refusing to release operational control over this mess to the Feds as of Mon 9-5-05? Please explain to me How it is "All Bush's fault" for something the State of Louisiana is in control of? Considering what we saw last week in NO. Just what did the billions of dollars in Federal Homeland Security money give to the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans since 9-11 to manage this sort of disaster for the 72-96 hours FEMA directive tell them it will take for Federal Assistance to reach a disaster zone BUY the Federal Taxpayer's?

935 posted on 09/05/2005 8:23:44 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If it is all Bush's fault, why will Gov Blanco still not let the Feds take over?)
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To: oceanview

360,000 MRE were at the SuperDome before the storm.


936 posted on 09/05/2005 8:25:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: NautiNurse

BTTT


937 posted on 09/05/2005 8:25:27 AM PDT by LOC1
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To: max_rpf
he explicitly ruled out using the airport or the conv center as a designated shelter

We can thank God at least that they did not use the airport. It would have been completely trashed. The airport is the heart of the relief effort right now.

938 posted on 09/05/2005 8:25:47 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

CNN still trying to pick the bones. Questions to ADM Tim Keating, NorthCom Commander about late response. ADM spells out what was done in advance on Saturday and Sunday before the storm struck. (Begs the question once again, if the feds were moving, why weren't those directly in front of the storm and responsible for local/state actions also moving.)


939 posted on 09/05/2005 8:25:59 AM PDT by CedarDave (MLKing, Jr: "I have a dream!", Howard Dean: "I have a scream!", Jesse Jackson: "I have a scheme!")
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To: backhoe

Just went to thread. It has been pulled.


940 posted on 09/05/2005 8:26:08 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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