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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Peach
Biden - coroner told to expect 5-10,000 bodies. And that's just New Orleans.

And those are the ones that the gators, crabs and fish miss.

Remember:
Mother Nature has her own way of disposing of bodies.
3,121 posted on 09/05/2005 7:57:34 PM PDT by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: 2rightsleftcoast

Isn't that the truth.

I guess I just have a bad attitude. I'd been away and came back to this mess. I just know it's not right when you have temporary shelters that become long term. It's not right when those shelters are in churches and they have to ask some refugees to leave because they are beating their wife and drinking alcohol! In church!!!!!!!

I tell you, we are just not used to that sort of thing here.

It's not right that some in those shelters just up and leave and wander about in the community. Noone has any idea where they went or what they are up to.


3,122 posted on 09/05/2005 7:57:50 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: Arizona Carolyn

jeez louise....Scarborough has been one of the WORST in making this political!!!

He has been hanging around the libs at MSNBC so long...he has become just as "blind" as they are!


3,123 posted on 09/05/2005 7:58:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: All

I just got disturbing word from my sister in DC. A college classmate of another sister lost everything in NO. She, her mother and some relatives evacuated. They still don't know where the rest of the relatives are.

The woman is in Houston. She went to the Red Cross office and asked for aid and was told there wasn't any!!! She was crying out on the street and a policeman gave her $100.

When my sister related this, another sister got on the line to the main office in DC (where my family is). She was incensed and said that she knew the RC was getting donations left and right and that they had money. A nice guy told her that the friend should have gotten a debit card for food, hotel, and spending money. Long story short, he gave her advice for the 'right thing to say' to the RC in Houston, what not to say to FEMA, etc. One of the things he advised was for her not to say she had evacuated herself, but that she was brought in on a bus. If she wasn't on a bus, she would get aid after everyone else.

This conversation started after I made some mention of not giving money to the RC. My sister went off like a maniac, recounting this poor woman's experience and her own experiance w/the RC main office. She is thinking of telling the DC media but is trying to find a way not to 'out' this guy who helped her.

Everyone who needs aid should get it as they present themselves to an agency. They shouldn't have to think of magic words to get it and they shouldn't have to go to the end of the line just because they were resourceful enough to get themselves out of town. Count my sisters and this other woman (who happens to be a newly graduated doctor and will have a job and money one day), as more people who will never donate to the RC again.


3,124 posted on 09/05/2005 7:58:42 PM PDT by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: BurbankKarl
"Lost its structural integrity."

Thanks for listing the reason.

But I just find it implausible that the Superdome must be torn down. prior to the storm weren't they saying it was designed for winds greater than the 165 mph? I think an analogy to an old oak tree is fitting. It came through these winds (weren't the top gusts @ 150, steady winds at @110?). Sure it's a mess and would take much to clean and repair the roof. But that effort would be less than a drop in a bucket compared to first of all DEMOLISHING and the REBUILDING.
I would guess we will see two factions rising: one wanting to see the city restored to what it pretty much was--only better--and the other for just restoring the historical parts, the refineries and ports, and commercial parts.
I wonder if the faction for minimal restoration are making a quick push to demolish the landmark.
3,125 posted on 09/05/2005 7:59:46 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

err...New Orleans had 400 officers for the entire city! When you figure they are working 12 on 12 off. Sounds like NO was working 18 on, six off to me.


3,126 posted on 09/05/2005 7:59:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Yes, the Libs have no choice but to fall back on whining "why are YOU trying to politicize this disaster?" The facts will force them to.

My standard response: "You have been politicizing this all week, now you reap what you've sown. You were warned, you ignored those warnings, prepare for a well deserved defeat."

No mercy.


3,127 posted on 09/05/2005 8:00:20 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: radiohead

I haven't donated to the RC in years,,,,never will again...


3,128 posted on 09/05/2005 8:01:13 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: mystery-ak

Salvation Army or National American Mission Board (NAMB).


3,129 posted on 09/05/2005 8:02:36 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Tony Snow

What a "snarky" (as Tony Snow would say) reply!!!

It is one thing for him to be defensive and try to blow smoke about blaming Bush...but,

to go personally after you, and say that he knows what he is talking about and you don't???

I had a really low opinion before you posted his reply...can you say lower than the bottom of Lake Ponchatrain? LOL


3,130 posted on 09/05/2005 8:02:47 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: spectre

So he resigned in the middle of a term to spend more time with his family? OK, nuff said--always wondered what went on in Joe's situation.


3,131 posted on 09/05/2005 8:02:51 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)
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To: Letitring

It used to smell even more interesting when the Jackson Brewery was still making beer...especially when you walked down Toulouse street.


3,132 posted on 09/05/2005 8:05:18 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: BurbankKarl

That's what I like to hear, people who take care of themselves. I am so sick of the media showing us nothing but people moaning and complaining. I remember the one woman at convention center. She was mad cause all they gave them to drink was water.
On another note, if they still need boats, I think John Kerry was in Vietnam. Give him a call. I'm sure he's rested and ready to report for duty.


3,133 posted on 09/05/2005 8:06:42 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: OKIEDOC
I am ashamed of what some liberals have tried to do with this disaster.

So am I. Can you imagine what other countries are thinking about our "leadership" right now? They might not understand our hierarchy when it comes to the Feds stepping in. This was NO, and LA's elected official's responsibility, not the White House. Bush will fix things, and I'm hoping and praying that heads will finally roll.

Liberals have once again shown their true colors. I hope the folks who suffered from their incompetence, see the light. I pray for that, because that is the means for their survival.

3,134 posted on 09/05/2005 8:06:52 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Ellesu

mark


3,135 posted on 09/05/2005 8:07:06 PM PDT by CajunConservative ("Dems can bus people to the polls but can't bus them out of danger to save their lives.")
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To: Roccus

"XV, Roccus wrote:

Suspension o the tax would keep the price down and help prevent panic buying."

Better go back and reread supercat before you get worse posts!


3,136 posted on 09/05/2005 8:07:24 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Since you raised the issue and I have time now, for future reference:

1. When central sanitation fails, septic systems still work. Toilets will flush with a gallon or two of water hand poured into the tank. Septic systems in flooded areas will not function properly, and will back up into residences.

2. If no septic system is available, liquid waste should be scattered and will generally not hurt plants.

3. Solid waste can be deposited in 5 gallon buckets, and many toilet seats will balance on top.

4. Solid waste can then be collected in 55 gallon drums and burned. Kerosene speeds the process, which should be carried out downwind of any field kitchens or sleeping quarters. Gasoline is risky but will substitute.


3,137 posted on 09/05/2005 8:07:52 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I've been giving that Salvation Army $100 donation package quite a bit of thought. Giving household cleaning supplies to people sleeping on the floor of a shelter seems like putting the cart before the horse if you ask me; they don't have a household to clean any more and who knows when they will?

However, in the two years that I have lived in the Alexandria area, I have witnessed firsthand that our local Salvation Army shelter does wonderful work helping the homeless. If you want to get donations directly to the victims and cut out the middleman, please send help here instead of the Jackson PO box:

Salvation Army
620 Beauregard Street
Alexandria, LA 71301

Thanks for your interest!


3,138 posted on 09/05/2005 8:07:56 PM PDT by buickmackane (reporting from Pineville, Rapides Parish, LA)
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To: del4hope
Someone like Penn needs to be removed from the situation. He is not a reporter, elected official or a member of the military/official rescue groups. He is only there for his own personal political agenda over and above any effort made to rescue the victims.

Very true.

Seems there are a lot of grandstanders flocking there to raise their profile, so to speak.

Leave the work to our silent professionals, the people that care and know how to get the job done and actually save lives.

God bless our military and other first-responders that are getting the job done.

I can't imagine what they are encountering, corpses floating around, and the mess in the SD. It's heartbreaking and they are the strong souls that are dealing with this disaster. I wish them peace and a sound sleep when they are able to rest.

3,139 posted on 09/05/2005 8:08:08 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Republic

Lol, wait until the see their first snowfall! The kids will never want to leave : )

Not counting those who have died, or been brutalized, this could be a golden opportunity for so many people. May they prosper and thrive : )


3,140 posted on 09/05/2005 8:11:13 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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