After talking to relatives and friends, it is now clear that politically the Bush Presidency is over. The lack of response has demolished the credibility of this administration as good leadership in crisis. People are really surprised at the inability of the bureacratic Washington mess to deal directly with food, water, shelter, facilities, something everyone understands.
I am a Bush supporter but the events of this week have ended the Bush Presidency.
Whether you like it or not, President Bush's term doesn't end until January 21, 2009. In no way did Katrina or the president's response end his presidency.
Not only did the president respond appropriately, he initiated a proactive response before the hurricane even hit.
I'm aware that liberals like to rewrite history, but it would be nice if they waited say, maybe a month, before doing that.
All this week the defeated liberal media will create all the bogus polls that show people think President Bush did not handle the Hurricane Katrina well, but these are bogus polls and lies that the liberals used to predict that President Bush and the Republicans were going to be crushed in 2000, 2002, and 2004 elections.
Please explain “The lack of response has demolished the credibility of this administration as good leadership in crisis.”
I understand how credibility was lost due to the ignorance of many citizens and the agenda of many news agencies, but what “lack of response”?
After consulting relatives and friends we have concluded that you should start contributing to Moveon.org.
"After talking to relatives and friends, it is now clear that politically the Bush Presidency is over"
Guess you and I travel in much differt circles. My relatives and friends don't blame Presidenr Bush at all. We are putting the blame squarely on the shoulders of the people of NO..politicians and residents alike. Hopefully people will take a lesson from this and learn to be better prepared to TAKE CARE OF TEMSELVES.
What lack of response? Not from federal gov't!
Who failed to declare and emergency? Who failed to call for forced evacuation of NO? Who failed to have the NOPD and NOFD working instead of looting? Who left school buses unused only to be immersed in flood waters?
The only people that are to blame for this disaster are the people of NO, they voted for these clowns. Do we feel sorry for these people? Damn right we do! But sympathy goes only so far, when they start blaming others for their own lack of governmental and personal planning the song get old quick.
My contempt comes from viewing video taken in a WalMart store. A male is looting, but has time to talk to a tv crew. Others are obviously looting. Among them are 2 female members of the NOPD. When questioned one claims to be doing here job. What is that job? Looking for looters! (Only in NOLA but without her seeing eye dag and white cane!)
PULLLEEEZZZ -
Response to natural disasters, whether hurricanes, tornadoes, floods or fires - starts at the local level. Florida handles these things all the time with effective, timely responses to much larger natural phenomenon. The President and federal government responded as rapidly as possible once it was determined that neither the mayor of New Orleans nor the governor of Lousiana had the wherewithall to effectively manage the response.
My relatives and friends understand that the news media is making this out to be Bush's fault as a matter of finding something to tarnish the reputation.
I believe the response was as fast as could be done. I also believe in survival of the fittest. Those that wailed that the gubment wasn't moving fast enough were shown repeatedly on the news - those people aren't typical of the vast majority of americans who rally under adverse conditions - step up and take care of themselves and their loved ones like the kid that took the bus and drove 60 people to Texas.
If this nation ever experiences something on a large national level I think 50% of the population would die of starvation or thirst because they are incapable of caring for themselves and expect the gubment to take care of them.
In the case of New Orleans there was NO gubment to do that. It took the federal gubment a couple days to get rolling so I guess that is Bush's fault. You obviously read the NYT on a daily basis and believe everything they write.
Just my opinion.
You know, it's one thing for lazy, deceitful MSM/dems not to look at the facts, but it's outright scurrilous for a Bush "supporter" not too.
I've talked to many Repubs that feel the same way, and I am astonished at the lack of forthought about this for people who supposedly use common sense. All day long yesterday I was goading people to come out and challenge me on the premise on Bush's "perception" problem he was going to have and learned many facts that as usual, were not over exposed by MSM/dems.
This disaster's blame should squarely be laid on state and local authorities that were not only warned, but directly ordered to do certain things that never happened.
I question who you say you are. Talking to people around me I have a different picture. What I am hearing is that the Gov. of LA and the Mayor of NO were lacking in their ability to handle the hurricane and what happened when the levies failed. Face it the state and local governments dropped the ball in New Orleans. The Gov. should have sent the state police and the LA Guard into the city before the storm hit. The local police force fell apart under the pressure of events. Knowing the problems of corruption and effectiveness of the NO police both the Gov. and the Mayor should have acted to assure that the NOPD had support from outside to handle the security in the city after the storm hit. President Bush did what he could do given the need for the Gov. to request federal help in order to get get the ball rolling on outside help. Don't get me started on the buses you see sitting in water. The Gov. and Mayor could have used them to get people without transportation out of the city. But they did not. If you are blaming the president for the failure of the state and city governments then I question if you ever voted for the man.
That is one of the stupidest responses I've ever from anyone yet.
1) The president is the President until 2009. Not only is it factually untrue to state otherwise, it demonstrates a severe lack of perspective on YOUR part.
2) The Bush administration DID respond and kept millions from dying. The crisis of leadership is directly on the heads of Blanco and Nagin.
3) If your family and friends are so uneducated, as you appear to be, you had better get the facts everyone knows HERE and start passing them out to do something USEFUL.
4) Are you sure you are on the right board?
No "Bush supporter" would say what you just said. Besides, your name is just too apropo to resist...putupjob? So, who put you up to this, putupjob?
You and your friends are such lame dimwits. January '09 is when this Presidency is over.
I cannot begin to count the # of "occasions" when nitwits have proclaimed this Presidency over.
Jeez!
re: the events of this week have ended the Bush
I too am a Bush supporter, but I think his presidency has been over for quite a while now. Other than the war on terror he has accomplished absolutely nothing of late and, in fact, has set the cause of conservatives back several decades. True conservatives need to make it know far and wide that W is NOT a conservative and that no one should make the mistake of thinking the way he has done things like spending money is not the way a conservative president would conduct business. He has done much to blur the lines between liberals and conservatives.
Have you read Post #18 yet? Are you reading the other threads that explain the chain of command between local/federal government in this country? That's why FR is worth is weight in gold -- by reading through the posts, one is educated and need not remain ignorant and brainwashed by the media.
So like a disaster movie in which society is put back together again 3 days after the asteroid hits...you expected that Louisiana...AND...Mississippi....AND....Alabama would all be well on the way to recovery?...an AREA greater THAN THE ISLAND OF GREAT BRITAIN (no less?!)
So George Bush is to be blamed for many folks not heeding the warnings to get out and for certain stupid local and state officials not using their local school buses to assist the sick and destitute to get out of the city of New Orleans?
By the way its only been 7 days and the national guard is in New Orleans now. The more southern parishes are still under water...not much help has been able to reach them...it seams the Gulf has reclaimed a good chunk of the La. coastline.
By the way the governors of Ms and Ala aren't complaining.
Let's keep a sense of perspective here!