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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Various ^ | 2 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Rokke

"Strategic Politics Rule #1: Don't play poker with President Bush. You'll lose."


6,141 posted on 09/04/2005 9:18:46 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: kcvl

New Orleans' (and Louisiana's) welfare system is carefully calculated to keep those on it trapped and unable to leave, I suspect.


6,142 posted on 09/04/2005 9:23:06 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NautiNurse
It is so hard to feel sorry for elected officials who had the authority to help their constituents and didn't act quickly enough.
The guilty start to blame others....
6,143 posted on 09/04/2005 9:24:49 AM PDT by LA Woman3 (On election day, they were driven to the polls...On evacuation day, they had to fend for themselves)
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To: Fast5

One of the first priorities of the telco emergency crews is to install emergency generators with large fuel bladders to repower the cell towers. They also bring temp towers and such with them.

Cell towers *can* talk peer to peer if they have problems - all they need is one tower in line of sight of the others with a working landline connection - and I think that's the BellSouth building.


6,144 posted on 09/04/2005 9:26:53 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: pollyg107

From what I hear, your Dem mayor is doing a pretty good job.

He's probably in the same class as Zell Miller - the truly loyal opposition. I doubt many of us have a problem with that idea.

You should be getting gas soon - just hang on.


6,145 posted on 09/04/2005 9:28:42 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NautiNurse

French Quarter is high and dry. They should rebuild the hotels and convention centers first -- keep the income rolling in. Otherwise, businesstypes will quickly forget about NO. Move on to Vegas, and Miami and Cinncinnati, etc.


6,146 posted on 09/04/2005 9:31:24 AM PDT by tbagot
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To: SauronOfMordor

http://www.craigslist.com is another venue for those missing loved ones and looking to reconnect.


6,147 posted on 09/04/2005 9:31:47 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: Ellesu
5:52 a.m. Saints To Play In San Antonio: No Refunds The New Orleans Saints will play all home games and San Antonio and will not refund ticket holders, according to a high-ranking official with the team who contacted a WDSU sports reporter. An official announcement is expected in the next day or two.

F the Saints if true.

6,148 posted on 09/04/2005 9:31:53 AM PDT by CajunConservative ("Dems can bus people to the polls but can't bus them out of danger to save their lives.")
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To: gg188
Pinging you to: U.S. vows to end New Orleans' violent crime wave

snips:

Saying he was carrying a message from President Bush, New Orleans U.S. Attorney Jim Letten said police and prosecutors were ready to hunt down a small group of criminals responsible for "horrendous" crimes in the stricken city.

"The streets of New Orleans belong to its citizens, not the violent thugs who have stuck their heads up out of holes in an attempt to exploit a national tragedy," Letten told reporters.

"Not one inch of that city is going to be ceded to the criminal element," he said in Baton Rouge. "Not one inch."

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Mmm my! I like it when men talk like this. Mmm MY! Strong, clean, clear, focused.

6,149 posted on 09/04/2005 9:31:58 AM PDT by Alia
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To: mewzilla

I suspect they already have.

Many of the refugees are seeking *permanent* jobs in Texas - they appear to be voting with their feet and wallets.


6,150 posted on 09/04/2005 9:32:32 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Peach

Yes.

Tim Russert pounding, absolutely pounding, Chertoff. It's beyond ugly.

Chertoff's fault for going on the show. What did he expect?


6,151 posted on 09/04/2005 9:33:32 AM PDT by tbagot
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To: gg188
Uh-oh. The thread just got pulled, with Moderator suggesting the thread be reposted without the poster comments about "shooting 'em up". The Moderator is right.

Just as with the aftermath of Katrina, this forum needs some cleaning up post-Katrina, too. Emotions ran high, and some flotsam floated in..

6,152 posted on 09/04/2005 9:34:22 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Spktyr

They are calling New Orleans now "Lake Nagin" after New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin.


6,153 posted on 09/04/2005 9:34:51 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: tbagot

French Quarter is high and dry. They should rebuild the hotels and convention centers first -- keep the income rolling in. Otherwise, businesstypes will quickly forget about NO. Move on to Vegas, and Miami and Cinncinnati, etc.

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I would think twice about having a convention in New Orleans knowing what the local population is capable of.

This storm is going to damage New Orleans PR in countless ways.


6,154 posted on 09/04/2005 9:37:13 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: gg188
Okay. It got reposted. U.S. vows to end New Orleans' violent crime wave
6,155 posted on 09/04/2005 9:37:23 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Rokke; oceanview; BurbankKarl; RobbyS; Cboldt; Canticle_of_Deborah; NautiNurse; Dark Wing; ...
This email does not look good for rebuilding New Orleans on its flooded site. If the flood waters inside the levees are that polluted, the whole country does not have the money to decontaminate the site. Man's laws can be waived, but not the laws of nature. That high a concentration of pollutants means rebuilding on such soil will just kill or permanently sicken/injure anyone who dares live there.

"*** called to say that he may not get to email for a few days. He and a colleague are going into New Orleans tomorrow to gather water samples;

seems there's a possibility that the floodwaters in the city are so polluted that pumping them into either river or lake may wind up killing off a whole lotta fish in the Gulf.

Apparently *** will gather his samples by leaning out the door of a Coast Guard helicopter and dropping the collection vials into the water below...all the while hoping that no armed thugs think he'd make an amusing target ...


6,156 posted on 09/04/2005 9:37:28 AM PDT by Thud
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To: plushaye

FLIR doesn't work well during the day, but at night, it can be put to good use.

A metal roof with one or more live humans under it is warmer at night than one that doesn't have anyone under it. Also, the gases around the roof will be warmer. IR can't see *through* most insulated roofs, but that doesn't matter here.


6,157 posted on 09/04/2005 9:40:10 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Thud

boy that one is gonna hurt the guy on fox just said that basketballs are on the way


6,158 posted on 09/04/2005 9:40:49 AM PDT by jhny7 (made in USA tested in japan mess with USA we'll use it again)
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To: Thud

The water is just going to get worse, if not from chemical pollutants but from the thousands of corpses, many of which we won't recover for weeks.


6,159 posted on 09/04/2005 9:41:17 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The red cross setup seems to be better, can handle large numbers of names, and is the thing that most evacuees are going to be entered into at processing points anyway


6,160 posted on 09/04/2005 9:41:19 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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