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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Various ^ | 2 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Arizona Carolyn; Lorianne; Sidebar Moderator

A thread was just yanked with some EXTREMELY VALUABLE INFO about N.O., Mayor Nagin and "evacuations" during Hurricane Ivan. I guess because the source was Mother Jones, the message was lost: READ THIS! What they are crying foul over now is what they complained about N.O.'s mayor doing during Ivan, published in Sept 2004!

Here is a link to the original article:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2004/09/09_414.html
Title: Poor, Black and Left Behind.

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Excerpt:
"New Orleans had spent decades preparing for inevitable submersion by the storm surge of a class-five hurricane. Civil defense officials conceded they had ten thousand body bags on hand to deal with the worst-case scenario. But no one seemed to have bothered to devise a plan to evacuate the city's poorest or most infirm residents. The day before the hurricane hit the Gulf Coast, New Orlean's daily, the Times-Picayune, ran an alarming story about the "large group…mostly concentrated in poorer neighborhoods" who wanted to evacuate but couldn't.

Only at the last moment, with winds churning Lake Pontchartrain, did Mayor Ray Nagin reluctantly open the Louisiana Superdome and a few schools to desperate residents. He was reportedly worried that lower-class refugees might damage or graffiti the Superdome."




Sure, there is a lot of leftist drivel. But read all of it. Sometimes you can get a lot of valuable information from THEIR sources, using THEIR own words and FACTS against them.


5,981 posted on 09/03/2005 10:50:30 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: tcrlaf
what you mean is skim their share off the top.

Sort of like what Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are trying to do.

Let the war begin and lets get it over now.
5,982 posted on 09/03/2005 10:52:17 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Oh lord....we got Nauti and Cajun having a fashion show, and Types with a Fist driving a 16 charlie...what next?

The Mayor claimig the CIA is after him?


5,983 posted on 09/03/2005 10:52:56 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: NautiNurse; All

Some friends in Utah just said they got a call to assist in crisis management for a group being flowin in tonight from NOLA... they will take good care of them in Utah.


5,984 posted on 09/03/2005 10:53:56 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NautiNurse

Interview now on the WWL feed: Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard has good news. The influx of water has stopped. He's got water restored to most of the parish, so fires can be put out. He's going to let people into the parish on a temporary basis just long enough to visit their homes, grab their important documents, secure their property and leave. After Friday, he's bringing in military reinforcements and putting the entire parish on lockdown. No cars will be allowed on the streets and it's a mandatory evacuation. He actually said, "You would be better off being a nutria in Jefferson Parish than violating this aggressive curfew!"

I don't know much about Jefferson Parish, but I am VERY impressed listening to Aaron Broussard's interview. I wish this guy had played a bigger statewide role because he really seems to have a handle on the situation and how to resolve it. He knows what the problems are and he has concrete, detailed solutions to each one of them.

Thank God somebody's got a plan!


5,985 posted on 09/03/2005 10:56:15 PM PDT by buickmackane (reporting from Pineville, Rapides Parish, LA)
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To: OKIEDOC

One difference, though.

We all already *have* guns in Texas. And we know how tu use them.


5,986 posted on 09/03/2005 10:57:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RummyChick; Salvation

Yes, Salvation has a thread running of a list of charities. I will ping them to your post, so they can direct you to it (I can't remember the exact title, and now can't find it :( )...


5,987 posted on 09/03/2005 11:00:18 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: Leapfrog
I have a couple of mini 14s, a 308, 3 30-06 automatics and several other guns in storage.

Because I have small children and we came from a country where violence and death was an everyday occurrence the wife just doesn't want guns around the kids even if there locked up.

The guns not the kids.

I do however keep in a closet lock box and old 32 automatic I carried for personal protection several years ago.
5,988 posted on 09/03/2005 11:01:02 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: OKIEDOC; Travis McGee; knightshadow

Ping to #5971, about gun sales in Baton Rouge.


5,989 posted on 09/03/2005 11:01:35 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: cgk

Very interesting.... they sure nailed the real John Kerry.


5,990 posted on 09/03/2005 11:01:50 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ZOTnot

Nothing Nagin, Blanco or Landrieu, much less Jackson, Sharpton or Lee is saying would hold water if they didn't have the MSM to carry the bucket of cra%ola they are trying to throw on the President.


5,991 posted on 09/03/2005 11:06:03 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BurbankKarl

Awwww.... I was watching the video of the rescuer trying to rescue a spaniel-mix and it breaks my heart. One of our females is pretty skitzy and I worry about how she would react in an emergency,


5,992 posted on 09/03/2005 11:09:38 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Types_with_Fist

All this because the selfish black leaders are playing the race card at every turn.


5,993 posted on 09/03/2005 11:12:16 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Txsleuth
Thats true.

I have taken people off the street before and had mixed results.

Usually their on the streets for a valid reason.
5,994 posted on 09/03/2005 11:14:36 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: DrewsMum
I certainly hope your right.

I think Blanco is a good example of what you will get from a liberal whether woman or man.
5,995 posted on 09/03/2005 11:16:33 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Rokke

I'm seeing this on the non-political threads too. The lefties, even some of the very hard core ones, are ignoring the political aspects of this and talking about how to help.

But the media is hammering this very very hard. New Oprah show being touted on NBC, "....everything your DIDN'T hear...everything you DIDN'T see....LIVE ON THE GROUND....OPRAH!!!!!"

As hard as they're hitting it, it will either fail or succeed spectacularly.

The media sees that a predominantly liberal city is off the voting map and they are up to something. Gore and Witt and Blanco and Jackson....my nose smells a rat.

But there's an angle they may not have counted on. The average American still doesn't get all of this.

I frequent a computer music forum and there are no Katrina threads at all. The kid's mom is essentially in the dark. The price of gas is high and that seems to be as far as their interest goes.

The media will have to graduate from spin to outright lies (which may have already started at CNN) to pull this off in the coming days because the cavalry is in there on the ground. Maybe they are building a foundation for when the casualty count is announced. Lots of possibilities, but the images and the statements and the political plans are archived under armed guard and pictures are worth ten thousand lies.

If they think they're going to win, they're miscalculating.

The most troublesome aspect of all this is Bush and the Mayor. The guy lights into Bush one night, the next day they act like a band of brothers, and then later that night the Mayor is on TV claiming Bush and the CIA are trying to mist him. Bush sees a bigger picture that we are still trying to puzzle out.

Well, we have most of the puzzle pieces already, it won;t take many more to see the larger pattern, we're cocked and locked. If they choose to open, some kind of real move, not just jaw flapping, they aren't going to know what hit them.


5,996 posted on 09/03/2005 11:18:29 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I think it had to do with moronic moon bat Cindy Sheehan.

Heck, I got admonished on Sheps Smith program for saying reporters were pampered unpatriotic two faced suck ups.
5,997 posted on 09/03/2005 11:21:03 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: jeffers

From another board...

Whenever you encounter a Liberal ranting about how Bush killed New orleans, simply retort with:

Got Bus?


5,998 posted on 09/03/2005 11:24:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I didn't watch it either.

As soon as he announced some of his guests I knew it would be a Bush bash.

Dose anyone in their right mind think these people really care about New Orleans or it's people.

I think not.
5,999 posted on 09/03/2005 11:25:21 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: tcrlaf
Whenever you encounter a Liberal ranting about how Bush killed New Orleans, simply retort with: Got Bus?

Decades ago we were told that busing would solve the racial problems in this country. While it was not much of a long term solution then, it probably would have worked this time. Too bad Nagin and Blanco killed New Orleans.
6,000 posted on 09/03/2005 11:39:49 PM PDT by Route66 (America's Main Street)
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