Posted on 09/02/2005 7:46:59 AM PDT by hinterlander
President Bush and House conservatives are on a collision course over the contentious issue of immigration reform, Rep. Tom Tancredo (R.-Colo.) said Thursday.
Tancredo, chairman of the House Immigration Reform Caucus and author of the REAL GUEST Act (HR 3333), said he expects Bush to embrace legislation drafted by Senators Teddy Kennedy (D.-Mass.) and John McCain (R.-Ariz.). Conservatives strongly oppose the bill, which Tancredo said is tantamount to amnesty.
Tancredo’s bill instead focuses on enforcement, particularly on companies that employ illegal immigrants. He said once illegal workers are denied jobs, they will no longer flood into the United States.
“If you stop illegal employment in this country—some big, high-profile cases with . . .
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"So many of whom just want ot follow the "great leader"
You are so right. it reminds me of a South Park episode where Cartman was the president of the Mel Gibson fan club. Someone asked him where Mel was, he said "If I knew where Mr. Gibson was I'd be down on the floor licking his ba!!s right now!" These people are no better when it comes to Bush. They are not loyal to a country they are loyal to a President first, a Party second and somewhere down the line, if they feel like it they show loyalty to the nation.
You're right, I misunderstood his point. My apologies to RW for putting him in such low company, lol. Sometimes you can start to think the quislings are multiplying like cucarachas and get carried away.
Oh, imagine that...Tancredo on immigration. One issue candidate. He stands no chance. Dont waste our time with Tancredo's crap.
Oh, imagine that...Lincoln on slavery. One issue candidate. He stands no chance. Dont waste our time with Lincoln's crap.
Not a problem. I am as mystified by the immigration problem as anybody. Tancredo has to branch out if he has higher ambitions. NO is the issue of the day, and he should add it to the portfolio somehow.
And don't forget our own Jim Gilchrist, the next Congressman from my District! Also read at Michelle Malkin's blog that the father of David March, the LA Deputy murdered by the illegal Armando Garcia, whom Mexico refuses to extradite now, might run against David Dreier.
Oh that's right - I completely spaced about J.G.! Thank you for the news about David March. Gracias (NOT) to Jim Kolbe, here in my district, for voting to protect police officer-killers.
They seem to equate one man with the entire nation and its fate, which is a dangerously un-American way to think. I agree, some person or persons in Bush's Administration seem to fostering some kind of "personality cult" around him, and there are distressingly many cult followers, from what I can see.
Cult following is right. I may have been fooled once, but no more.
I personally met with Tancredo in DC in Sept. 2001. He was the leader of the group of Congressmen opposed to Illegal Immigration.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/july-dec01/immigration_9-6.html
September 6, 2001
RAY SUAREZ:
We're now joined by three Congressmen who follow immigration issues: Thomas Tancredo of Colorado, who chairs the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus; Silvestre Reyes of Texas, head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus; and Chris Cannon of Utah, a member of the House subcommittee on immigration.
Well, Congressman Tancredo, you just heard the president discuss a solution that Congress can accept. By your views, what does that look like?
Guest worker programs vs. amnesty
REP. THOMAS TANCREDO: Well, it's an interesting question and one that we keep wrestling around up here. We have said and certainly I have said over and over again that if anybody can prove that there is a significant need for workers in the United States that we do not have here, that Americans will... For jobs that, quote, I always hear this, Americans will not fill for whatever reason, if that is the case, then we can devise a guest worker program that can do two things: Bring workers in and protect their rights so that they won't be exploited as they often are today by people who are trying to get them to work for lower wages and fewer benefits. On the one hand, we can also control the process and they can go home after a period of time, whatever the contractual arrangement is for. If you can come up with a good guest worker program that does those two things, I will be very willing to look at that.
RAY SUAREZ: Does that guest worker program imagine handling first those people who are already here, or you would ask that hey go home first?
REP. THOMAS TANCREDO: No, absolutely not. No guest worker program that is connected to something like amnesty-- although nobody wants to use that word anymore but it is exactly what we're talking about-- guest worker programs are guest worker programs; amnesty is amnesty. They should never be connected. If you believe we have a problem in the United States with illegal immigration, which I certainly believe we do, then please explain to me... I'd love anybody to explain to me how they think amnesty helps solve the problem of illegal immigration; it certainly doesn't. We tried it in 1986. What happened, of course, is immigration -- illegal immigration exploded because we sent the wrong message; that is, get here avoid detection, stay long enough and we'll give you legalized status. It's a bad, bad thing for a government to do.
RAY SUAREZ: Well, Representative Reyes, let's move to you next. The Hispanic Caucus met with President Fox during his visit here. Immigration was certainly discussed. Where do you and the caucus come down on how these matters should be handled now? ..........
Why is 10 percent of Mexico living in the USA? Why are 1/4 of prisoners Illegals, are they doing JOBS Americans especially EVEN blacks won't do. (Criminal Jobs that is)
We need to send them back so they can square away that racist government in Mexico.
In #86 you posted:
"Example 2. "Bomb Mecca...."
I really am not seeing a problem here."
In #174 you posted:
""...so someone from Albania would be opposed to nuking Mecca"
But....but that's stupid.
Thats like me saying don't bomb Rome because the Vatican is there. Other than the obvious reasons(Catholics aren't beheading people) why would I care? When a bomb goes off in Israel, I don't worry about it because of my Christianity, I worry about it for the innocent people these PIGS are blowing up."
Do you recall the original poster you responded to in #86?
In #86 you posted:
"Example 2. "Bomb Mecca...."
I really am not seeing a problem here."
In #174 you posted:
""...so someone from Albania would be opposed to nuking Mecca"
But....but that's stupid.
Thats like me saying don't bomb Rome because the Vatican is there. Other than the obvious reasons(Catholics aren't beheading people) why would I care? When a bomb goes off in Israel, I don't worry about it because of my Christianity, I worry about it for the innocent people these PIGS are blowing up."
Do you recall the original poster you responded to in #86?
How long before the immagration problem becomes another New Orleans....What is wrong with our government ???
Oh, imagine that...Tancredo on immigration. One issue candidate. He stands no chance. Dont waste our time with Tancredo's crap.
Oh, imagine that...Lincoln on slavery. One issue candidate. He stands no chance. Dont waste our time with Lincoln's crap.
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Tuesday September 16, 10:50 AM
New York, Sep 16 (IANS) U.S. President George W. Bush is reportedly against a critical bill now in Congress that would cut down H1-B visas dramatically, affecting skilled IT and other workers from India.
At a private reception attended by eight Indian Americans in Jackson, Mississippi, Bush vehemently expressed his opposition to House Resolution 2688, a bill introduced by Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo of Colorado, according to those attending the meeting.
Immigration attorney Paresh Shah, who was present at the meeting, said he specifically questioned the president regarding his stand on the bill in which Rep. Tancredo has called for terminating the H1-B visa programme altogether.
"Bush spread his hands as wide apart as possible and stated unequivocally that 'Tancredo and I are at opposite ends of the pole. I fully do not support Congressman Tancredo's bill against H1-Bs'," Shah told IANS.
The Tancredo bill has raised hackles both in India and among Indian Americans and other supporters of the community.
"In fact in India and the U.S. there is an understanding that President Bush supports Tancredo's efforts to close the H1-B programme as Tancredo is a fellow Republican and also because the unemployment figures are so high and many people feel that it is a result of H1-Bs occupying American jobs," Shah said.
But the president's statements prove the opposite, he said. Shah is a member of the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) that presented its counter proposal on the H1-B visa reduction programme to the president at the gathering.
The private reception was in honour of the Mississippi Republican gubernatorial candidate Haley Barbour and netted $1.2 million for his campaign.
Besides Bush, other noted luminaries at the reception included former senate majority leader Trent Lott of Mississippi as well as Karl Rove, the president's chief campaign advisor. Sampath Shivangi of Mississippi organised the exclusive Indian American delegation.
The California delegation, besides Shah, included Indo-American Friendship Council chairman Krishna Reddy.
Currently, there are some estimated 900,000 H1-B employees in the U.S., 35-45 percent of whom are from India, according to AILA.
"Judging from the president's strong negative reaction to the Tancredo bill, it's apparent that the president understands that the current unemployment situation in the U.S. is not due to H1-B visa holders taking American jobs," Shah contended.
Tancredo stands for the People...... of the USA not of i n d i a.
Were those treaties the work of Nixon? That IS when we turned our backs on the Taiwan people, isn't it?
How wonderful that we carry the water for Red China
Take a good look at his ACU ratings.
I will just look at 2000. Abortion: ZERO votes on abortion issues before 2003
Actually, he voted for Partial-Birth Abortion Ban - Passage HR 3660 (Roll Call Vote No. 104) in 2000.
He voted for the Taxpayer Funded Abortions HR 4811 (Roll Call Vote No. 396) in 2000, restricting federal funding of abortions.
Moreover, he has an extensive voting record on abortion. See the proper page. http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CCO89758&type=category&category=Abortion%20Issues
Crime Issues: ONE vote in his time as a congressman http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CCO89758&type=category&category=Crime%2BIssues&go.x=13&go.y=14
Defense: ZERO votes before 2003
National Security: ZERO votes before 2004
He supported Fiscal 2001 Budget Resolution Conservative Substitute H.Con.Res. 290 (Roll Call Vote No. 73) in 2000, which call for less non-defense discretionary spending and more in defense discretionary spending than the budget resolution.
He voted for the Island of Vieques Military Training HR 3908 (Roll Call Vote No. 88), which helped keep the naval training facility open longer.
He voted for the Kosovo Operations HR 4205 (Roll Call Vote No. 193) in 2000.
He voted against Missile Production HR 4205 (Roll Call Vote No. 196) keeping the Trident II production open.
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CCO89758&type=category&category=National%2BSecurity%2BIssues&go.x=7&go.y=13 Foreign Policy Issues: ONE vote before 2005(glad to see he takes a real interest in it)
He sits on the International Relations Committee. If you had an ounce of common sense, you would know that the Vote Smart record was flawed.
He supported the U.S.-Taiwan Military Ties - Passage HR 1838 (Roll Call Vote No. 5) in 2000.
He voted against the Cuban Economic Embargo HR 4871 (Roll Call Vote No. 424) in 2000, helping to keep the embargo.
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CCO89758&type=category&category=Foreign%2BAid%2Band%2BPolicy%2BIssues&go.x=9&go.y=5
IMMIGRATION: ZERO votes before 2004...ZERO, NADA, NIL, NEIN, ZIP, ZILCH
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CCO89758&type=category&category=Immigration&go.x=5&go.y=13
In other words, we must subsidize illegal hiring practices or else?
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