Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII

Various ^ | 1 September 2005 | Various

[AFPhys]

I was just looking for that figure (but hadn't asked): the area affected. I was motivated by the quote NN has from the Netherlands official starting this thread. I wish to note, now, that the area affected is FIVE the total land area of the whole country of Netherlands. I would love him to state just how he would handle it when his whole country is gone, as well as a distance his whole country wide on all sides of the Netherlands.

maroons...

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Interesting piece of news:

EarthWatch Update:
Meteorologist: Glenn Schwartz
Updated: 12:30 p.m. Thursday

We have four potential tropical systems out there.

Slideshow: Glenn Looks At The 4 Tropical Systems Forming

One became a storm that is tropical depression Lee, but it is way out in the Atlantic.

Tropical depression number 14 may be the most potentially dangerous system, possibly affecting the Caribbean in a week.

And there is another one, northeast of the Bahamas we also will be following. This is not too far off Florida and that one will have to be watched as well.

A fourth storm is to the far east and it may also have potential to be a big system.

http://www.nbc10.com/weather/1787404/detail.html

[mewzilla]

I think the problem is that FEMA assumes states know what they're doing, and is there to help, not take over.

If that's the assumption they made, bad assumption.

[Friend of thunder]

Coast Guard estimates 100 barges are run around in the Mississippi river right now..navigation channels have to be completely redrawn.

Did they give any idea on a time frame? If the Mississippi is un-navigable for any period of time the middle of the country will be hard hit.

[WoodstockCat]

already happening in Miss. Guy pulled a knife in Jackson, MS yesterday in a gas line.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Nope. I blame the FEMA Incident Commander or whatever his job title is. Jerk.

[dawn53]

I don't know about the black vote thing.

A black man on a local radio station (in our area) was apologizing to the nation for the behavior of black thugs in NO.

He said it was a disgrace and embarrassment to the black community.

[spectre]

So? People get shot at in Iraq all the time, but it doesn't ground the planes.

sw

[AFPhys]

Correction: the Netherlands quote was from the start of a different thread ...

"Netherlands (based on the fact it has half its country below sea level) official: "I don't want to sound overly critical, but it's hard to imagine that (the damage caused by Katrina) could happen in a Western country. It seemed like plans for protection and evacuation weren't really in place, and once it happened, the coordination was on loose hinges."

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Absolutely bad assumption. Especially on a disaster this huge.

[Coldwater Creek]

Here in Memphis, we have a mayor that is of the same cut, and the man has a PHD. Street talk and legit babies are his tradmark.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

what a great, descriptive phrase: the coordination was on loose hinges.

[bwteim]

Admin Mods.

I know you all are up to your eyeballs in work, but I went through my replies/posts since the storm.

Whenever you have the time, would you please remove my links to Clarion Ledger? Don't want to get us slammed later.

Thank you, bwteim

They are listed below:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475135/posts?page=2990#2990

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475135/posts?page=2963#2963

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475135/posts?page=2949#2949

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474387/posts?page=2915#2915

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473615/posts?page=4649#4649

This one is OK
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473615/posts?page=4517#4517

probably OK
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473373/posts?page=468#468

probably OK
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472974/posts?page=1419#1419

[AFPhys]

The governor is the person who had the greatest authority to deal with this - even greater than the President.

The president was only able to act AFTER request by the governor, or if the governor or state was clearly incapable. Sadly, that wasn't (quite) the case.

[va4me]

The NO Police force is likely as crippled as the city in general.

Well, we have all these new Iraqi police that we've trained. Do you think anyone would want to leave the relative safety of places like Fallujah to come help in NO? :-)

[Friend of thunder]

Well said.

[BlackRain]

"There is no Incident Commander with backed up authority, by the looks of things. "

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Radio traffic shows that there is a command element to the responders. It is called "Pelican Base", however, I don't know who is in charge.

From the sound of the traffic, it seems that LSP, EOC, National Guard, NOPD are doing their own thing.

[mewzilla]

I don't think anyone thought they'd be looking at the largest natural disaster ever to hit the United States.

Whether they shoud have...

All I know is that last I knew disaster preparedness was still mainly a local and state responsibility. The feds can't be blamed for voters who elect morons, and morons who elect to stay instead of evacuate.

[GodBlessUSA]

This is scary news. I can't even imagine. Prayers they don't become much of anything. But 3 systems to be concerned about. Yikes!

[ohioWfan]

Show me where I have bashed Bush? You are reading something into my words that aren't there.

I didn't accuse.....I asked.

You were critical of one defending the President who is being attacked (stupidly) by the left for this disaster, so I was asking if you were taking the opportunity to bash him as well.

All you needed to do is say "No."