Posted on 09/01/2005 10:37:44 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
Unrest Intensifies at Superdome Shelter Sep 01 12:56 PM US/Eastern
By ADAM NOSSITER Associated Press Writer
NEW ORLEANS
Fights and trash fires broke out at the hot and stinking Superdome and anger and unrest mounted across New Orleans on Thursday, as National Guardsmen in armored vehicles poured in to help restore order across the increasingly lawless and desperate city.
"We are out here like pure animals. We don't have help," the Rev. Issac Clark, 68, said outside the New Orleans Convention Center, where corpses lay in the open and evacuees complained that they were dropped off and given nothing.
An additional 10,000 National Guard troops from across the country were ordered into the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast to shore up security, rescue and relief operations in Katrina's wake as looting, shootings, gunfire, carjackings and other lawlessness spread.
That brought the number of troops dedicated to the effort to more than 28,000, in what may be the biggest military response to a natural disaster in U.S. history.
"The truth is, a terrible tragedy like this brings out the best in most people, brings out the worst in some people," said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour on NBC's "Today" show. "We're trying to deal with looters as ruthlessly as we can get our hands on them."
The Superdome, where some 25,000 people were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, descended into chaos.
Huge crowds, hoping to finally escape the stifling confines of the stadium, jammed the main concourse outside the dome, spilling out over the ramp to the Hyatt hotel next door _ a seething sea of tense, unhappy, people packed shoulder-to-shoulder up to the barricades where heavily armed National Guardsmen stood.
Fights broke out. A fire erupted in a trash chute inside the dome, but a National Guard commander said it did not affect the evacuation.
Outside the Convention Center, the sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement. Thousands of storm refugees had been assembling outside for days, waiting for buses that did not come.
At least seven bodies were scattered outside, and hungry, desperate people who were tired of waiting broke through the steel doors to a food service entrance and began pushing out pallets of water and juice and whatever else they could find.
An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.
"I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "I buried my dog." He added: "You can do everything for other countries but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can't get them down here."
Just above the convention center on Interstate 10, commercial buses were lined up, going nowhere. The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.
"They've been teasing us with buses for four days," Edwards said.
People chanted, "Help, help!" as reporters and photographers walked through. The crowd got angry when journalists tried to photograph one of the bodies, and covered it over with a blanket. A woman, screaming, went on the front steps of the convention center and led the crowd in reciting the 23rd Psalm.
John Murray, 52, said: "It's like they're punishing us."
The first of hundreds of busloads of people evacuated from the Superdome arrived early Thursday at their new temporary home _ another sports arena, the Houston Astrodome, 350 miles away.
But the ambulance service in charge of taking the sick and injured from the Superdome suspended flights after a shot was reported fired at a military helicopter. Richard Zuschlag, chief of Acadian Ambulance, said it had become too dangerous for his pilots.
The military, which was overseeing the removal of the able-bodied by buses, continued the ground evacuation without interruption, said National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider. The government had no immediate confirmation of whether a military helicopter was fired on.
In Texas, the governor's office said Texas has agreed to take in an additional 25,000 refugees from Katrina and plans to house them in San Antonio, though exactly where has not been determined.
In Washington, the White House said President Bush will tour the devastated Gulf Coast region on Friday and has asked his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and former President Clinton to lead a private fund-raising campaign for victims.
The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.
"I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this _ whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud," Bush said. "And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together."
On Wednesday, Mayor Ray Nagin offered the most startling estimate yet of the magnitude of the disaster: Asked how many people died in New Orleans, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands." The death toll has already reached at least 110 in Mississippi.
If the estimate proves correct, it would make Katrina the worst natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which was blamed for anywhere from about 500 to 6,000 deaths. Katrina would also be the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people.
Nagin called for a total evacuation of New Orleans, saying the city had become uninhabitable for the 50,000 to 100,000 who remained behind after the city of nearly a half-million people was ordered cleared out over the weekend, before Katrina blasted the Gulf Coast with 145-mph winds.
The mayor said that it will be two or three months before the city is functioning again and that people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.
"We need an effort of 9-11 proportions," former New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial, now president of the Urban League, said on NBC's "Today" show. "So many of the people who did not evacuate, could not evacuate for whatever reason. They are people who are African-American mostly but not completely, and people who were of little or limited economic means. They are the folks, we've got to get them out of there."
"A great American city is fighting for its life," he added. "We must rebuild New Orleans, the city that gave us jazz, and music, and multiculturalism."
With New Orleans sinking deeper into desperation, Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts Wednesday and stop the increasingly brazen thieves.
"They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas _ hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said.
In a sign of growing lawlessness, Tenet HealthCare Corp. asked authorities late Wednesday to help evacuate a fully functioning hospital in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water and medical supplies was held up at gunpoint.
The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.
The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 15,000-pound bags of sand and stone into a 500- foot gap in the failed floodwall.
But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.
Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu toured the stricken areas said said rescued people begged him to pass information to their families. His pocket was full of scraps of paper on which he had scribbled down their phone numbers.
When he got a working phone in the early morning hours Thursday, he contacted a woman whose father had been rescued and told her: "Your daddy's alive, and he said to tell you he loves you."
"She just started crying. She said, `I thought he was dead,'" he said.
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You are so full of crap I think you need to go to the bathroom...they were told for days before the hurricane that it was going to be bad...that it was going to be HORRIBLE...days before...and I won't even comment on your Bush and military bashing...troll..
We're talking about the frigging Gulf Coast here. That's a long ways away to a Yankee, but I can drive there in hours from here. There's no excuse for any delay, other than misdeployed military assets.
The National Guard is for protection of the United States, not foreign countries and international corporations.
//that ought to light one up
Television only adores Rudy for the same reason they adore McCain -- because they are seen as "moderate" Republicans who can undermine the alleged right-wing extremism of the GOP. If either one of those guys were ever nominated for a White House run on a Republican ticket, the media love-fest would quickly come to an end.
Are you series?
Yeah. They should get everybody out, and THEN burn the place down. Damn it's ugly!
"troll" = more high school name-calling
I have nothing but respect for the military (particularly having come from a military family going back a century and a half--AND being a professional military historian). And that's not to mention the first responders. I actually feel a little proud of them all, even though I'm not part of the rescue efforts.
You've got to get over the fact that the Mayor of New Orleans, the governor of Louisiana, are incompetent.
ROFL!
Ever notice what a fine line it is between someone who needs rescuing and someone who does the rescuing?
It's not the size, color, age,health,background, or anything else that I can put my finger on.
It's something that is in a person, and it's there or it's not.
People along the Gulf Coast are a little jaded to hurricane evacuations. 9 times out of 10, you can simply ride out the storm. So, that played a part in it.
There are also plenty of people who simply cannot get out. The elderly, the sick, people who are too poor to own a car etc. Then you have the random people like tourists from other countries who are simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
A lot of factors in why some people stayed.
We have elderly cousins who live (lived) in the 9th ward. They've not owned a car in years - NO is so insular in some ways. They took buses or cabs or walked. They went to the superdome, so initially we were somewhat reassured as to their safety. Now we are very worried and they've not shown up in Houston yet. An uncle drove from Austin to Houston hoping to find them.
We also have cousins in Gulfport who said, "I sat right here through Camille and I'm going to set right here through this storm". (You have to imagine a very heavy southern accent to get the full effect.) The Red Cross called earlier today to tell us they are safe in a shelter - their home is gone. I think a lot of people who survived Camille thought of it as the worst that could happen.
We are still missing four "maiden aunt" cousins, the youngest of which is 66, the oldest is 92. They were going to go to a shelter, but we've got no information as of yet.
hughly....not.
I think a Guiliani candidacy would be fascinating. He's pro-abortion and loves the sexually deviant. How'd the newsies make that sound bad while wetting themselves over the Witch Queen?
The last election was a snoozefest. The above would be neat.
This seems to be the lesson of Katrina.
Seriously, the dems are trying to blame Bush on this but it is not sticking. It is OBVIOUS the cooruption in LA and NO has caused untold suffering.
Miss and AL were also hit. They also have the same level of tragedy but not this type of animal behavior!
Damn.
I hope all your relatives turn up safe and sound.
I don't think most people who stayed bought into the whole "end of the world" spiel from the media. People have been crying wolf about hurricanes for ages. Usually, you end up with a flooded basement. 9 times out of 10, the worst-case scenarios do not happen.
I don't think its inability or negative desire, I think its COMPLETE INCOMPETENCE!!!!!
THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING, AND AS A RESULT ARE UNABLE TO GET ANYTHING DONE!!!!
THe governor is not "overwhelmed" she's completely INCOMPETENT! PEOPLE ARE DYING! Yes, I know the city is in chaos, but you cannot tell me that you cannot COPTER, TRUCK or OTHERWISE GET WATER TO THESE PEOPLE!!! That's obsurd.
This is HOW CORRUPT LA's GOVERNMENT IS! And alas, IT IS NOT THE ONLY ONE!..... GOVERNMENTS IN SUCH SAD STATE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED DOWN BY THE GOVERNED LONG AGO..
4 DAYS WITH NO WATER AFTER YOU TELL THEM TO GO THERE, AND EVEN TAKE SOME OF THEM THERE!!!
INFATHONABLE!!!!
WAL MART COULD HAVE TRUCKS OF BOTTLED WATER THERE IN LESS THAN A DAY!!! WTF IS GOING ON?
What in the heck are you mumbling about??..are you actually comparing a months long military prep operation with a natural disaster??..are you really that stoopid??...you should just be quiet and learn before you get to far behind...sheesh...what a pinhead...
I don't want to sound redundant but the longer it takes for aid to get in the more of a case they have to blame our president.
Politics eh??...have to pander to the libs and dems...and the rest of the world...
You're so irritable. You're funny, but you have nothing original to say.
I'm sorry, but I have to pay more attention to substantial discussions elsewhere. But have a good day.
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