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So You're a Conservative . . . You Must Be a Nazi!
Human Events Onlin ^ | August 31, 2005 | Rabbi Aryeh Spero

Posted on 08/31/2005 9:32:02 AM PDT by hinterlander

A Gainesville, Georgia, talk show host returning from visiting our troops in Iraq wrote a letter to the New York Times disagreeing with the paper's pundits' conferring on Cindy Sheehan, mother of a fallen soldier, the status of "absolute moral authority" regarding our involvement in Iraq. With sensitivity, Martha Zoller wrote that many mothers and fathers of fallen heroes, with equal moral clout, support our mission in Iraq.

To her surprise, this southern gal received a bundle of e-mails from the New York City area calling her a "Nazi" and "concentration-camp capo," the latter a pejorative used often by Jews referring to that small number of their brethren who collaborated with concentration camp Nazis. It's not a term one generally hears thrown around on the streets of Provo, Utah.

What could possibly be Nazi-like, capo-like, in simply expressing a sentiment that buttresses the opinions of families who've lost children yet still support the war? Actually, nothing! What such name-calling may show is a pre-dispositional belief, from upbringing, within a core of the liberal/progressive community that white, Southern Christians -- majority American types -- are inchoate Nazis.

Almost every policy advancing the cause of American nationalism is seen as grounds for using the N-word, Nazi, reminiscent of leftist race-baiters who stand ready to spring . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: authority; dowd; left; liberal; maureen; mdm; moral; nytimes; sheehan; times
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To: EagleUSA
Sounds to me like we have a classic case of projection going on here by the socialist left. They need to quite puffin' before it kills 'em:

41 posted on 08/31/2005 10:54:19 AM PDT by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Fintan

Bookmark...


42 posted on 08/31/2005 11:00:06 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: dfwgator
"Far Left and Far Right.."

I always dispute the idea of a "Far Right", and will confront whoever says that to me. I consider the notion of a "Far Right" to be a fabrication of the left, notably the mainstream media, just as "Saturday Night Special", which does not seem to have a real definition. If the "Right" is considered "conservative", and since it is an impossibility to become so conservative as to begin to veer leftward, then the convergence of left and right can never occur.

Now if you were to consider graphing ideological tendancies versus types of government, you would then get a horseshoe-shaped curve where the common Left would converge (near the bottom) with Anarchy. At the top of the curve would be us, namely; those who believe in constitutionally-limited government, and the rule of law, and who believe in individual freedom.

43 posted on 08/31/2005 11:05:51 AM PDT by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: pbrown

You may.


44 posted on 08/31/2005 11:09:04 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind - Einstein)
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To: hinterlander

Liberals calling conservatives Nazis is reflexive, almost to the point of being a subform of Tourette's Syndrome.

To paraphrase Ann Richards, "they just cahn't hep it!"

You see, the problem with liberals is that their thinking (what there is of it), is extremely shallow, consisting of oft repeated phrases and invective. Read DU for innumerable fine examples.

You see it every time one tries to engage in a debate: lib makes a statement as fact (usually not); conservative answers with facts; lib, confused by something not repeated ad nauseaum on DU, becomes frustrated, tries to recover, fails, then, with blood vessels bulging, issues a derisive insult designed to put the conservative on the defensive, i.e. "Nazi" "homophobe" "bigot" "fascist" or "racist" being the most popular. Conservative, realizing that he/she has entered a battle of wits with an unarmed person, walks away, shaking head. Liberal thinks he/she has won. Rinse. Repeat.

I particularly enjoy encounters with the people that hate Rush Limbaugh. They are just full of stories and quotes that they are absolutely sure are true. Then you ask "do you ever listen to the show?" Stunned silence is followed by "NEVER! I can't listen to the *&%$#)*$&*!!!"

I get this from people with Ph.D.s, alleged scientists no less!

If I wasn't crying, I would be laughing!


45 posted on 08/31/2005 11:09:14 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: Kerretarded

Thank you. :-)


46 posted on 08/31/2005 11:11:54 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: fizziwig

He and the SS/Nazis were heavy into the occult as well. The History Channel had quite a documentary about that. Everything they did was satan worship. No wonder they hated the Jews, God's chosen ones, and Christians, God's grafted ones.


47 posted on 08/31/2005 11:22:49 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Marysecretary

"He and the SS/Nazis were heavy into the occult as well. The History Channel had quite a documentary about that. Everything they did was satan worship. No wonder they hated the Jews, God's chosen ones, and Christians, God's grafted ones."

Yup, this was detailed in the book "The Sword of Destiny."


48 posted on 08/31/2005 11:27:40 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: pbrown

This whole thread is very informative. This is why Savage talks about "Hitler in a headscarf."


49 posted on 08/31/2005 11:34:32 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Designer

But in even the most extreme cases in the US, I'm unaware of political parties forming their own armed, uniformed paramilitary groups.

Perhaps the closest equivalent was the KKK in the early 20s, when they controled a good dozen state legislatures. Although I'm not sure you can call a sheet a uniform. :)


50 posted on 08/31/2005 11:35:26 AM PDT by Restorer (Liberalism: the auto-immune disease of democracies.)
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To: hinterlander

Calling someone a "Nazi" and "concentration-camp capo" is prima facie proof of a weak case, if not a weak mind. It is a subtle acknowledgement that the argument is already lost; that is, a case cannot be made on its own merits.


51 posted on 08/31/2005 11:45:00 AM PDT by OESY
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To: fizziwig

Thanks for the info. I think that book was mentioned in that documentary. Sounds familiar, at least. Mxxx


52 posted on 08/31/2005 11:59:31 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: hinterlander

International Socialists call everyone who is 'not them'
National Socialists?...how lame is that!


53 posted on 08/31/2005 12:13:16 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: OESY

EXAMPLE: Best Comment Ever
By: John Cole August 30, 2005 at 4:55 pm




I have had a few pieces of hate mail, and I have weathered some pretty stupid commentary, but this is hands down the best comment I have ever received (for sheer entertainment value):


Dear fascists on this site:

I am a liberal.

I would rather live as a slave on my knees…

...then die on my feet as a warmonger.

Cindy is better than Jesus and Rosa Parks. You are worse than Hitler.

Fuck off.

A liberal



Worse than Hitler? C’mon Miss Lewinsky, get off your knees.

-- http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=5426


54 posted on 08/31/2005 12:31:18 PM PDT by OESY
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To: Little Ray

True. Yet after the Cold War broke out, Communism's boasted internationalism proved to be more of a talking point than a reality. One of its most effective tools was to play upon the nationalist dreams of former colonies. Nationalist freedom fighters became common all over the world. This could be described as a "temporary" step along the way to the international utopia, but logical consistency has never been an attribute of the Communist mind, despite its claim to be scientific.


55 posted on 08/31/2005 2:13:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Fintan

The Kingston DailyFreeman paper poll opn setting a withdrawal date for Iraq is 2 to 1 for setting such a date. New York is Liberal country, and not just in the Big Sh*tty!


56 posted on 08/31/2005 2:15:06 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: Cicero
but logical consistency has never been an attribute of the Communist mind, despite its claim to be scientific.

Yet another commonality with our homegrown socialist liberal left.

Perhaps a scientific study on the equivalence of Liberalism and Socialism/Communism is in order.

57 posted on 08/31/2005 3:32:59 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: hinterlander; meadsjn
Actually that tactic is common here too, just read the illegal immigration threads. We have a good example from today, and not even on that subject:

"To: meadsjn
And furthermore, business owners get tax credits for hiring foreigners here on work visas, but none for hiring Americans.

Where did you get that notion? Vdare, or Stormfront?
24 posted on 08/31/2005 5:11:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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58 posted on 08/31/2005 6:48:58 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Atque ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appelant)
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To: 2banana
Great post!

Substitute Democrats for Nazi or Democratic Party for National Socialist Workers Party and we have modern America.

America will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.

59 posted on 09/06/2005 8:10:21 AM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: concrete is my business

Islamofascism is also a legitimate term to throw around, althouygh these are more like the Japanese fascists, whose policies were based on the divine rights of their emperor. In each case, we get fanatical resistance to the point of suicide missions an masse.


60 posted on 09/06/2005 8:19:50 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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