Impeach Bush! (Joseph Farah On Upholding American Sovereignty Alert)

Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 08/31/05 | Joseph Farah

[DoughtyOne]

We are letting people from terrorist states enter the U.S.

Do I need to explain why I'm on that note? I'm thinking that you should be able to understand this.

[FergusMacRoich]

Pat Buchanan is a nut case, the best thing that ever happened to the right wing is when that idiot left the Republican Party. Pat is nothing but a Cindy Sheehan in drag, and this announcement is proof of his lunacy Too bad you can't come up with some sound reasoning to back your position, rather than resorting to name-calling.

[Map Kernow]

In short, you aren't just against illegal immigrants; you're against all immigrants because you're prejudiced against hispanics in general. Apparently, your prejudice is based on the fear that they will come into this country and do everything better and cheaper than you, leaving nothing for you to do for a living.

What is the basis for these personally abusive and race-baiting accusations of prejudice and bigotry? Every person who complains on this forum about the borders or illegal immigration is eventually falsely accused of bigotry, racism and prejudice. Why is the pro-illegal immigration side in this debate allowed to continually engage in such personal abuse? Why the obvious double standard?

[rdb3]

I completely disagree. We, the People, have our voice in Congress. We can get what we need accomplished on this subject through them. Impeachment is completely unnecessary.

[chronic_loser]

thanks. I agree

[FergusMacRoich]

I kind of imagine the President has other things on his mind right now besides Patty and Farah's rantings. I think he better snap out of his daydream then, because the clock is ticking.

[Map Kernow]

We, the People, have our voice in Congress.

But not in the President?

We can get what we need accomplished on this subject through them.

But not through the President?

Impeachment is completely unnecessary.

Then why is it in the Constitution?

[FergusMacRoich]

My response is to send a message by voting against incumbents of both political parties in local and state elections. I tend to believe the urgency of the situation requires more than a memo sent via election return every couple of years.

[rdb3]

Play dumb all you like. I've made my point. If I'm wrong show me exactly where I'm wrong.

What's more important: getting the job done or carrying out a political vandetta against the President?

[Don Carlos]

President Bush has had nearly six years in office

January 2001 to date is 4 years 8 months in office. Every time I hear the "nearly six years in office", I stop reading. Farah joins the other whack-jobs.

[Map Kernow]

I tend to believe the urgency of the situation requires more than a memo sent via election return every couple of years.

Excellent point. Illegal immigration and the problems it causes have attained the status of a national emergency. GW is no more entitled to ignore it than he would have been entitled to ignore the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01. If he continues to disregard the growing anger of America's citizenry on the issue, he may not last in office till 2008.

[Map Kernow]

What's more important: getting the job done or carrying out a political vandetta against the President?

Getting the President to get the job done as "Chief Executive," "get" it?

[Shalom Israel]

What is the basis for these personally abusive and race-baiting accusations of prejudice and bigotry?

Slow down bub. Reread the guy's comments, and notice that he covers all sorts of topics other than the fact of illegal entry. I object to illegal entry, because it's, well, illegal, and anyone who would thumb his nose at our laws as his first step in the land, doesn't belong here. But that isn't this guy's problem; he objects to the fact that they're speaking Spanish and working for low wages. In other words, he's angry about all the wrong things, and his anger is far broader than the issue of secure borders.

Every person who complains on this forum about the borders or illegal immigration is eventually falsely accused of bigotry

I complain about the borders and illegal immigration. So far, nobody has accused me of bigotry, falsely or otherwise. So your claim appears to be incorrect.

[FergusMacRoich]

This has my blood boiling right now. Are Buchanan, Farah, and their supporters aware of what they are saying? Calling for the impeachment of a wartime president. How is that not giving aid and comfort to our enemies? Imagine Al Jazeera talking this up. You mean to tell me that that would not strengthen the Islamofasicists' resolve? As a vet, I find it indescribably disgusting to suggest anything like this right now. Not one here who calls for this gives a flying flip about this war effort or our troops. This post is assinine. Hopefully if it proves necessary to impeach the current commander in chief, the one who replaces him will take this war more seriously than Bush. If Bush does wind up being impeached, its not because I don't support the war or the troops, its because George Bush isn't taking national security seriously enough. You can tell the enemy that the reason Bush is getting impeached is because the American people feel he is being too soft on our enemies.

[rdb3]

Getting the President to get the job done as "Chief Executive," "get" it?

Nonresponsive, so I'll ask again:

What's more important: getting the job done or carrying out a political vandetta against the President?

[rdb3]

This post is assinine.

NOTHING I post is "assinine," understand?

[Map Kernow]

he objects to the fact that they're speaking Spanish and working for low wages. In other words, he's angry about all the wrong things, and his anger is far broader than the issue of secure borders.

What's the end result of him opposing illegal immigration and you opposing it, since you assert you do? Do you oppose it any more or do you get a medal because you oppose it for the right reasons? The law is the law, even if as you claim Jim wants it enforced so he won't have to speak Spanish in that dishwashing job he's always wanted (although he should be allowed to express his position himself without benefit of being put on your analyst couch)---it doesn't matter why people want it enforced.

[Shalom Israel]

What's the end result of him opposing illegal immigration and you opposing it, since you assert you do?

I answered that question a half-dozen times already: the difference is that this guy also opposes legal immigration.

it doesn't matter why people want it enforced.

I matters quite a bit. If the motivation is racism, then enforcing immigration law isn't the only action one will take; one will also do rotten things to american citizens in the hated group. For example, this guy states that "his" job is being taken by illegals--but how does he know they're illegal? Has he seen their green cards? Did he see them sneak across the border? Maybe some are illegal--but are they all illegal? He seems to think they are. Why? Because his real objection is to job competition, not to illegal immigrants. He is opposed to anyone who takes a job for lower wages than he would like to receive.

[Map Kernow]

Nonresponsive

I responded. Your question just "assumes a fact not in evidence," that I'm pursuing a political "vandetta" against the President. I'm "pursuing" the enforcement of laws Bush took an oath to uphold. If he ignores that oath, he should be impeached. If he wakes up and starts enforcing the law and defending the borders, I and millions of other American citizens (who only voted for the guy, that's all) would doubtless be placated.