Posted on 08/30/2005 10:34:44 PM PDT by goldstategop
Pat Buchanan, former communications director to President Ronald Reagan, former presidential candidate and WND commentator, has come to the conclusion that a courageous Republican legislator should move a bill for impeachment of President Bush.
I reluctantly agree – and for the same reasons.
President Bush has had nearly six years in office to honor his oath of office and enforce immigration laws in this country.
He has not only failed, he has intentionally neglected this sworn duty, instead claiming he prefers to promote a vague immigration "reform" plan that involved a "guest worker" program that has served as an encouragement to the most massive influx of illegal immigration this country has ever seen.
Some will tell me this can't be done and that it is irresponsible to propose it because Bush is a wartime president.
My response? It is precisely because this nation finds itself in a desperate war declared by a formidable foe determined to use our open borders to destroy this country that we must act now.
Some will remind me I endorsed Bush just two years ago for re-election.
My response? I made it very clear at the time that I was not really endorsing Bush, per se, but seeking the only practical way to defeat his reckless and irresponsible and treasonous opponent. There is no contradiction here. Kerry had to be defeated. Now Bush must go. America can do better.
I don't agree with many of Pat Buchanan's foreign policy ideas. But on the border, he is 100 percent right. Bush has been a disaster. No matter how successful we might be in our campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, we can lose this war against jihadist Islam right here at home.
Our enemies have already used the open border to penetrate this country – and they will do so again.
When Bush placed the old Immigration and Naturalization Service under the new Department of Homeland Security, I actually believed he recognized how critical border security was to the defense of our homeland. I was fooled.
In the current issue of my premium, online, intelligence newsletter, G2 Bulletin, author Paul Williams recounts in extravagant detail how al-Qaida operatives have already used the open Mexican border not only to sneak operatives into the country but to smuggle in nuclear weapons with the help of the MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha) street gang.
The fuse has been lit.
The war in Iraq, which I have supported, will mean little when, not if, a nuclear weapon is detonated inside our own country.
When that happens, we will no longer be having debates about who has more culpability for Sept. 11 – Bush or his predecessor. Bush has had ample opportunity to address the mistakes of the past. Instead, he has repeated them. They say hindsight is 20-20. Not for Bush.
Even if the border issue and the tsunami of illegal immigration was not strictly speaking the No. 1 national security issue we face, enforcing the laws of the land would be the right thing to do – the only moral and right thing to do.
Americans are dealing with more joblessness, higher crime, skyrocketing taxes, a crippled medical system, overcrowded jails, an overburdened judicial and law enforcement system, costly and divisive language barriers and changing demographics that are permanently transforming the U.S. culture.
Why?
Bush claims it is because America needs cheap labor. That's what the law of supply and demand is all about. It's not his duty or responsibility to acquire workers for big corporations and other fat cats below what the market will support.
I don't even believe Bush is being honest when he makes this argument. I am convinced there are international agreements behind this. I am persuaded the systematic destruction of the American way of life through uncontrolled and illegal immigration is part of a master plan for merger and global consolidation – first with our neighbors in this hemisphere and later worldwide.
This secretive plot must end here and now.
America was founded on the principle of independence and sovereignty. The president is betraying our most sacred national heritage.
Bush is ignoring the will of the people and he is violating the law of the land.
It's time to turn up the heat.
As Buchanan suggested: Will even one courageous Republican member of Congress have the guts to sponsor a bill of impeachment?
During WWI people wandered back and forth across the border. During WWII people wandered back and forth across the border. During the Korean War people wandered back and forth across the border. During the Civil War people wandered back and forth across the border. During the Vietnam War people wandered back and forth across the border. And not ONE was an agent of our enemy.
I get it you are laboring under the delusion that the people of Mexico are our ENEMY. It was really Mexicans who flew the planes into the towers. It was really Mexicans who perpetrated terrorist acts against our country. It is really Mexicans who are attacking our soldiers in Iraq.
Are you really THAT stupid or just pretending to be?
Oh, really? Well, read this story here "Resources Lacking for Border Security":
Although Bush signed legislation last December that requires the hiring of an additional 2,000 border agents, only about 10 percent of that goal has been budgeted.
Care to explain that?
Then you're not bothered that George refuses to stop terrorists from coming into the US from Mexico??? And you're not bothered that Bush is working on his project to eliminate our sovereign borders and turn the US along with Canada and Mexico into the 'new' North America State???
I see. And the President has no comparable responsibility? His hands are tied until Congress decides to act, to declare war? Interesting. Tell me, was there a Congressional declaration of war for Afghanistan? For Iraq? Would you like Congress to declare war on Mexico?
Impeach members of Congress would be more appropriate.
That's strange---I don't recall a Constitutional provision for impeachment of Congressional members. You seem to know more about this subject than I do---cite me the provision of the Constitution that allows impeachment of members of Congress.
If it were TRUE that terrorists are coming in from Mexico that would be one thing. But since that is a ridiculous LIE I am much more concerned with the Treason Media and the antics of the Treason Party which really ARE trying to destroy this country. Apparently you are ready to join them in attacks on our great president the biggest attempt to destroy this nation at present.
As for your other ridiculous LIE it is not even worth responding to. What next news of the Alien-GOP alliance?
Yes, indeed---Slava velikomu Stalinu!!! People like you are going to have to decide if they owe their allegiance just to a MAN and his career, or to a NATION and its laws. Ponimaete?
As a genuinely great President, Abraham Lincoln, liked to say, "That reminds me of a little joke."
Joseph Stalin was addressing an Assembly of Communists. Suddenly, someone sneezed.
Stalin looks up, glowers, and demands, "Who sneezed?"
All in the audience simply look at each other fearfully, without responding.
Stalin then yells, "First row---on your feet! NKVD---Shoot them!"
As the unfortunates in the first row are shot, the rest of the communists applaud wildly and shout "Glory to great Stalin!"
As the corpses are dragged away, Stalin, his eyes gleaming homicidally, says, "Now, WHO SNEEZED?" But the audience again simply stays frightened into silence.
Again, Stalin calls for the second row to be shot, then the third, on and on. Each time the survivors are on their feet applauding wildly, shouting "Death to the enemies of the people! Long live our beloved comrade Stalin!"
Finally, when almost all the delegates have been shot out of hand, a dejected figure in the back stands up and pitifully whines, "Comrade Stalin, I abjectly confess that it was I who sneezed."
Stalin turns to the direction of the voice, looks the man in the eye, raises his hand and says:
"GESUNDHEIT, COMRADE!!!"
Some of the information has been posted numerous times on FR...It has been confirmed time and time again that most illegal drugs in the US come across the Mexican border...And what does George do??? He encourages even more to cross...
George was instrumental in forcing Jews in Israel to give up a portion of their 'promised land'...That reason alone is enough to convince ME he has to go...
Even an Ostrich pulls his head out of the sand once in a while...
Another point that needs to be made. I don't see how drug trafficking is a "family value." Here is an op-ed article from less than two weeks ago entitled "Mexican border is freeway for drug trafficking." To quote the article: "While we're focusing on terrorism and various threats to our country, we need to look at what's happening a lot closer to home than most of us like to admit."
I never said it was the "only qualification". However, all other qualifications are irrelevant if you don't speak Spanish.
Bush speaks Spanish and he's rich to begin with...those are the two necessities required for a non-Hispanic to prosper in the America that Bush envisions.
Poppycock. I don't speak spanish (at least, it's been 20 years and I'm awfully rusty), and I'm not rich--I was born in a blue-collar family, the first to finish college. My Dad worked two jobs, as a bus driver and a convenience store manager, and my mom worked in a factory. We ate mostly chicken because it was $0.25 per pound. Reagan was president, and illegals were coming into this country then as now, and I managed to finish college, get a PhD, and get a job. Doing OK now, thanks. Even supporting a family including a wife that doesn't work.
If you think that somehow "da man" stuck it to you, and you're now doomed because you don't know spanish, then quit your whining and learn spanish. Not to mention truck driving, welding, phlebotomy, plumbing or any of the thousands of things out there that need to be done. If you can't make more than an undocumented ditch-digger, then you're either unmotivated or stupid--and you're not stupid.
The "genie's out of the bottle"---the subject has been raised, and by people whose views people in the Republican base read and consider. Just as Clinton could've avoided impeachment by not breaking the law, Bush can avoid impeachment by starting to enforce the law.
Apparently YOU do, because you stated in post #33: "should Bush fail or refuse to be the executive, impeach him." Remember?
Rather a sloppy stab at tossing my words back at me.
Congress, unfortunately, did not mandate the increased manning nor did they either provide funding or mandate the funding. When by way of a supplemental funding authorization they had the chance to fund the whole enchilada for the year, they chose to fund only 650 new hires, not the 2000 they said they wanted.
Additionally, the original bill authorizing the increase spread it out over five years. He'll be out of office by then.
For me to get to the "should Bush fail or refuse to be the executive, impeach him" stage, the above would have to be a mandate. Not easy for one co-equal branch to impose on another.
I agree.
I may come to agree. But, not yet.
Now the Chorus of the Ignorant have another voice shrieking its off key crap. Those of us who actually give their alligence to our nation understand that Bush is a great leader and his leadership has been superb worthy of calling him a great president.
Morons, looks, Leftists, crackpots and mopes declare their alligence to screwball ideologies rather than the nation.
Cindy will sign your petition and get her Code Pink friends to join.
Now you switch to another ridiculous LIE after being called on the prior LIE. Bush IN NO WAY "encourages" more drugs being smuggled in.
Those of us NOT delusional and who have been paying attention understand that tons of drugs have been smuggled across the Mexican border for DECADES. Long before George was even governor.
"Bush can avoid impeachment by starting to enforce the law."
This is not a standard to impeach a President.
Not exactly. See post #162 and the link thereat---it's more like a third that number. Inadequate by any definition---but GW is clearly dragging his feet on even the little extra border enforcement Congress has funded.
Still, it's good to see that we agree in principle---GW is subject to impeachment should he "fail or refuse to be the executive." That's the whole issue here.
I guess there's a double standard around here depending on where one stands on the issue, isn't there? I don't debate fanatics----I'll just note that hundreds of thousands of real heroes died 60 years ago making sure that the citizens of this nation never had to endure the placing of any one man above the rule of law in our system of government. Any decent American still hallows their sacrifice today. That's all I have to say to you, or anyone like you.
This is not a standard to impeach a President.
I'm not going to debate you if you don't care if Bush observes his oath of office to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States or not. Whether or not it is a standard to impeach him is up to Congress and its constituents, the citizens of the United States.
Sixty years ago there was no such thing as an illegal alien. Mexicans wandered back and forth across the border without concern from anyone.
No one is being "placed above the Law" though your ilk certainly crawls around under it spreading your malodourus bile.
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