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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: luckystarmom
I can see food -water-medical.At this point it is survival.Not TV-art work etc.Criminals.
3,801 posted on 08/30/2005 10:55:01 PM PDT by fatima (Never touch my tag line.)
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To: nunya bidness

I see. The hurrican closed or consticted the drain. Interesting, except, that the pics don't show it, or the impact was very gradual. The odd thing, is that if this is so, why was the lake not much up 8 hours ago, and now will jump up another eight feet?


3,802 posted on 08/30/2005 10:55:05 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Pepper777

Oh boy I hope C2C is not saying that...


3,803 posted on 08/30/2005 10:55:18 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: JellyJam

2 Things of note from that link...

Only 1/3 evacuated from Biloxi??

And the sat photo is DISTURBING! It looks like the Gulf is now MUCH closer to New Orleans than before!


3,804 posted on 08/30/2005 10:56:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: John Jamieson

Big tides could do it, newly constricted drains could do it as the hurricane changed the topography. Help me.


3,805 posted on 08/30/2005 10:57:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Pepper777

No..what did that guy say?


3,806 posted on 08/30/2005 10:57:23 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Torie
"What are the tides on the lake...?"

There are no significant tides on a lake, the body of water involved is too small. Lake Michigan (300 X 90 miles and 900 feet deep) has only a 1 inch tide. I'm sure Lake Ponchartrain's "tide" is less than .001 inches.

3,807 posted on 08/30/2005 10:57:30 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: jeffers
The inflow can only come from two places.
The river, which drains so much of the US that you can't view all of it and the Lake on the same scale map

The Mississippi doesn't normally flow into the Lake, and I haven't read anything that says that it is currently doing so. The Amite and another river (the Comite?) drain into the Lake.

In fact, the Mississippi isn't particularly high this time of year.

3,808 posted on 08/30/2005 10:57:43 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: BurbankKarl

As Hurricane Katrina dismantles Mississippi’s Gulf Coast, it’s worth recalling the central role that Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour played in derailing the Kyoto Protocol and kiboshing President Bush’s iron-clad campaign promise to regulate CO2

RFK, Jr


3,809 posted on 08/30/2005 10:58:08 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: txdoda

We have friends you own a house there. I guess that the house has been destroyed but did the island itself get reclaimed by the water? Was the refinery there destroyed?


3,810 posted on 08/30/2005 10:58:58 PM PDT by MHT
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To: tcrlaf

Do you have a link to that Sat picture?


3,811 posted on 08/30/2005 10:59:16 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: tcrlaf

It's beyond words, isn't it?


3,812 posted on 08/30/2005 10:59:31 PM PDT by JellyJam (Headline of the year: "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists Are Muslims!")
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To: buckleyfan
Does everybody "HERE" know how you twist posts to back off of your own irritating statements?

I didn't twist anything; you said "The mayor and ALL of the officials of New Orleans and Louisiana as a whole warned everyone beginning Friday that this storm was not going to turn, that it was a worst-case scenario, and that everyone had to get out. "

And I called it utter tripe.

Check out the DAY and TIME on the following post, which was posted WHILE THE GOVERNOR WAS GIVING HER PRESS CONFERENCE:

To: Diddle E. Squat; Ellesu; NautiNurse
Highlights of press Blanco press conference....

We are very concerned. We know it can shift.....
I feel it is wise to be prepared....
Listen to your parish leaders. I think it is wise to make the decision of contraflow at the right time. Be careful drivers. Your goal is to be safe. Be patient.
All parishes are working in a coordinated effort. We are a team. We have to keep everyone safe. Perhaps we can pray very hard....
533 posted on 08/27/2005 1:44:06 PM EDT by LA Woman3
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There's something you need to know about me and you should remember this: I do not EVER make factual statements I cannot back up

3,813 posted on 08/30/2005 11:00:10 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: cookcounty

Well either the Mississippi is running through town, or the topography has changed, and the lake has assumed a higher elevation, because there is a lot much silt between it and the gulf, and the the open water between the lake and the gulf is now gone or close to it. I think I may fly into Baton Rouge, and hire a helo, and take some pics tomorrow.


3,814 posted on 08/30/2005 11:00:29 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Will_Zurmacht
Will we have a store down the street that add's it in.I ask the people from India not to take offense but I have an eyewitness of the putting on many things under their clothing and while it was happening and reported nothing was done.They add it into the total of loss.
3,815 posted on 08/30/2005 11:01:03 PM PDT by fatima (Never touch my tag line.)
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To: Torie

Some idiot CNN bade just said the waters in NO could rise another 15 feet. I HATE this.


3,816 posted on 08/30/2005 11:01:55 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Arizona Carolyn

That's part of it, but there are number of factors as well. Geography (much of LA. is undeveloped and some uninhabitable), lack of new industry, etc. It is a self-perpetuating cycle that has been getting worse for decades. The poorer it gets, the worse the services get, the worse the economy is, which means fewer new businesses, which means fewer jobs.. which means the economy gets worse, thus the cycle. It was an agrarian economy for years and New Orleans found itself even more limited by it's location, could not grow like other cities.

Yet it still managed to be a jewell in its own way. It *might* be rebuilt, but will never be the same.


3,817 posted on 08/30/2005 11:04:21 PM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: PAR35

"Many parts of I-10 are flooded."

Could be true, but not the whole story. Do you know for sure that it is not possible to leave the bowl via either I-10 west or US90?


3,818 posted on 08/30/2005 11:04:52 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: Howlin

Ya Blanco was slow, inarticulate, and useless, and remains so.


3,819 posted on 08/30/2005 11:05:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: PAR35

"To: jeffers
The inflow can only come from two places.
The river, which drains so much of the US that you can't view all of it and the Lake on the same scale map

The Mississippi doesn't normally flow into the Lake, and I haven't read anything that says that it is currently doing so. The Amite and another river (the Comite?) drain into the Lake.

In fact, the Mississippi isn't particularly high this time of year."

The River is flowing through "multiple breaches" into St. Bernard Parish, per the mayor.

St. Bernard Parish is overflowing into the Idustrial Canal, in an image which has been posted in this thread several times.

The Industrial Canal opens into the Lake.

There has also been discussion here that the lock on the upper end of the Industrial Canal, at the River may have failed.


3,820 posted on 08/30/2005 11:05:19 PM PDT by jeffers
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