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To: kcar

Let me kick out a bizarre concept.
Was Clinton trying to weaken the U.S., so we would not
be powerful enough to face our enemies? Since, we would not
be strong enough to stand alone, we would eventually join
a world conglomeration of some sort. Clinton, of course,
would be one of the leaders.

If you think about his actions, what did they accomplish
other than to divide us, and strengthen our enemies?
Did he really go after Al-Qaeda? Did he give technology to
the Chinese to make them a threat to Taiwan, Japan, Korea,
Russia, India, and us?
Did he go to Africa to start trade, or help alleviate their
wars, or strengthen whatever democracies they have there?

Part of his strategy may have been to keep us self-absorbed,
and not see what was going on internationally.

Do you recall how his office went after the Branch Davidians,
and Elian Gonzales, but shot off a few tomahawks at some
tents in Afghanistan? Was that an even response? Why didn't
he use his troopers to raid Al-Qaeda offices(or caves), instead of
Elian Gonzales' family relations?

Kinda makes you wonder.


902 posted on 08/30/2005 8:10:40 PM PDT by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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To: Getready
Clinton's every move or non-move was aimed at "Peace and Prosperity" and the party ran on that platform against Bush...The cry was "Four More Years".

Consequently, nothing happened of consequence...or so Bubba said". "Don't rock the boat" was the order of the day.

THIS NATION took a big hit on the Towers in 1993. My God, AN ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL and it hardly made news. A few people died, hundreds were injured and it was treated by Clinton as if it was a "local crime". I don't remember any terrorist names being mentioned.

Usama must have smiled when he listened to Bubba after that event. He could get away with murder "Big Time". Security in NY wouldn't change. The hunt down of USA cells wouldn't change. The only change Usama would have to make was to make any mission, a suicide mission.

What he didn't count on was GW getting into office and a "Take'm Down" approach to 9-11. He didn't think GW would go into Afghanistan. Besides, Pakistan was readily available as a second "camp". Or, he could go to Iraq where Saddam had provided Yousef "safe harbor". Had Saddam got his way and had the sanctions removed which he had been trying to do desparately for 2 years before 9-11, Saddam likely would have put an end to the Kurds and given the region to Usama as a playground.

Trying to read Usama's and Saddam's minds, I suppose, but anyone who thinks they wouldn't conspire against the USA is a fool.

942 posted on 08/31/2005 7:33:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Getready
I partly agree, partly disagree.

I don't think it was Clinton trying to weaken us, but rather the Chinese and Middle Eastern tyrants.

Bill Clinton is being used, first by Hillary, and then also by the Chinese, sometimes allied with the Middle Easterners, to further their evil schemes for world domination. Hillary is the ideologue, rather like Trotsky. The power (money) comes from the money we ourselves have spent, for oil and dry goods, with the Middle Easterners and the Chinese. Bill is a petty 'man', driven by his own lusts. It really was all about sex, and other addictions of drugs and public adulation, for him. It was about far more for the forces that put Bill Clinton on our national stage.

Though Clinton was trying to weaken us, though I think not so much by his own scheming but by the scheming of the "powers behind the thrown," Hillary and the other s listed above.

Gore was profoundly right - there is no controlling legal authority, not on the world stage where this is being played out.

One cannot have a healthy economy and laws respecting free men, and their lives and property, unless a properly formed government, kept in check by a responsible and informed citizenry, is established to provide for the common safety and governance. This applies to geographic regions, and now it applies to this planet.

We are far far from having a healthy world government instituted by an informed and responsible world citizenry. The only putative world government we have now, the United Nations, is a den of thieves and tyrants. Fortunately, its weaknesses usually exceed its evils.

The human race now has a world economy, without the proper world governance and without the informed and responsible citizenry required to form that governance. This planet will continue to look like the Barbary Coast, home of Islamic pirates between the 1500's and the 1800's.

The U.S. will continue to have to "make the world safe for democracy,", if we continue to have the stomach for it.

959 posted on 09/01/2005 3:21:44 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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