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Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part V
NHC - NOAA ^ | 28 August 2005 | NHC - NOAA

Posted on 08/28/2005 9:35:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: NautiNurse

however there are times when hurricanes can reach continue higher then normal hurricanes and become Annular.This allows a storm to carry on getting stronger beyond the point where hurricanes would normally begin a EWRC event.All long lasting category-5's are likely to be Annular.Hurricane Isabel also became annular and managed to keep its apperance as one for nearly 24hrs.It lasted about 42hrs as a category-5(the 3rd longest in record)before finally weakening as upper atmopsheric condtions weakened the system.The strongest ever atlantic hurricane in terms of windspeed was the 1935 labor day hurricane,the only hurricane that had 200mph winds suspected with pressure down to 892mbs.To reac hthat strength I highly suspected it also had perfect condtons over it with hot SST's from the Gulf stream nearby and it probably was also Annular considering its pure power and deepness.Annular hurricanes are often called doughnut storms due to a lack of feeder bands and a large circle shape,also the main feature of these storms is the large outflow coming from all quadrants of the storms,showing that each quadrant was similar in terms of strength,another sure sign that Isabel was a Annular storm,here is the image of Isabel when she was Annular,notice those individual vorticies in there as well:

http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/goes/pub/goes/030913.isabel.gif


1,041 posted on 08/28/2005 11:47:38 AM PDT by Howlin (She's here!)
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To: Tarpon

Wow. Thanks for posting that link; that is incredible.


1,042 posted on 08/28/2005 11:47:38 AM PDT by Altamira (Get the UN out of the US, and the US out of the UN!)
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To: tomkat

That horn in the French Quarter was playing Amazing Grace.


1,043 posted on 08/28/2005 11:47:41 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("And the second is like to this: 'Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.'" (Matthew 22: 39))
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To: spectre
(175 MPH..gusts over 200)

When you consider Category 4 starts at 131, Category 5 starts at 155, and this is 175, Katrina is in a category all by herself. If she center-punches NOLA, there may not be much left once she passes

1,044 posted on 08/28/2005 11:47:45 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Abigail Adams

"I can't believe that they don't have some plan in place to help the elderly and the stranded tourists get out of town on busses or trains or something! What will happen to those people?"


It seems the airlines threw in the towel rather early. Why couldn't they continue flights until at least early today?


1,045 posted on 08/28/2005 11:47:49 AM PDT by Figment
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To: NautiNurse
Katrina has 24 hours to weaken, go east or west or any other number of things. (yeah, strengthen too) My point is that that are history and facts to learn from and guide us individually and as a nation.

I admit I am fascinated by nature taking over and reminding all of us that we are powerless in many situations.

My wife and I drove back to Bend from Seattle yesterday (saw the rookie Hernandez pitch Friday night) and we caught a glimpse of Mt. St. Helens. My wife commented that it used to be known for being perfectly cylindrical - if you look at it you'd be extremely perplexed to estimate how many tons of rock & earth are no longer there.

Of course I'm one to spout common sense....I can see Mt. Bachelor, the Three Sisters, Mt. Washington, Jefferson & Broken Top from our deck - all dormant volcanos.

I do pray for a best-case scenario w/Katrina.
1,046 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:00 AM PDT by happydogx2 (Let Freedom Reign!!)
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To: topher

Watching one of the streaming links of NO tv, the roads are looking clear, actually. There are cars, but they have plenty of room to move.


1,047 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:13 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: GummyIII

Sun still seems to be shining in NO.


1,048 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: commish

The water supports CAT 5 all the way to landfall, easily. She is moving fast enough that upwelling is not a problem... 200mph would be pretty unthinkable. I wouldn't want to be housed in the super dome for this, I must say.


1,049 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:18 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: tomkat

Al Hirt's ghost


1,050 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: Man50D

Wind gusts to 207 MPH.


1,051 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:28 AM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: Callahan

Those guys are dopes.... You never know what economics are involved with gas prices....they might go down due to less use in the affected area.


1,052 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:28 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Man50D
"The Weather Channel just reported maximum sustained winds of 184mph."

That is at flight level not on the ground. It's around 160ish at ground level. Still catastrophic.
1,053 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:28 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: KC Burke
OK Ihave to put a little bit of levity into the stress. Someone on EC Weather forum said that NHC need to put this storm in turns that rednecks can understand.

SO basicically what we have now is this. Katrina just qualified for the pole at Talladega. She passed Dale Jr. on the back stretch and is putting the chrome horn to Jeff Gordon in Turn 3.

1,054 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:38 AM PDT by commish ((Montgomery, AL) Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: don-o
http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/iwszone?Sites=:laz062#top

Scroll down and you will find the message.

1,055 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:50 AM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)
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To: Mister Baredog

I certainly hope you don't think I am blaming the president in any way for this lack of planning. The president is the one who encouraged the NO mayor to order an evacuation.


1,056 posted on 08/28/2005 11:48:50 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: mhking
Just making those various mms/Windows Media Player links actual links (the auto-HTML didn't do it)...

Live video streams (copy/paste into WMP or RP):

WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm
WKRG-TV/DT Mobile (WMP) - mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

1,057 posted on 08/28/2005 11:49:04 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Dang it all, Knit.....you made me cry.

Praying for the city of your heart.

Leni

1,058 posted on 08/28/2005 11:49:14 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Callahan

DU cretins are the last thing on my mind today. They matter very little and something like this monster storm with all its implications solidifies that for me.


1,059 posted on 08/28/2005 11:49:21 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (It's wabbit season!)
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To: itsinthebag

902 millibars...a measurement of pressure. As the millibars go down, the storm strengthens. Katrina's millibars just went down another 4 points.


1,060 posted on 08/28/2005 11:49:21 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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