It's good to see the cops hassling pedestrians that are not suspects in any wrongdoing and providing other useful public services. Can I hire this guy to come over and kick my dog, too?
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Why did they want her info?
2 posted on
08/26/2005 4:39:32 PM PDT by
garyhope
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Somewhere someone once told me that a cop does not need probable cause to ask for identification.
What I don't remember is if they need probable cause to "insist" on identification.
3 posted on
08/26/2005 4:40:12 PM PDT by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I hope she breaks these thugs' backs. Talk about abuse of power ...
4 posted on
08/26/2005 4:40:37 PM PDT by
IronJack
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Can I hire this guy to come over and kick my dog, too?
If he did, there probably wouldn't be much you could do
about it.
5 posted on
08/26/2005 4:40:49 PM PDT by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The police deserves to lose money just for having their officer hassle a pedestrian who by his own admission, did not suspect that person of committing a crime. If I don't commit a crime, its none of the police's business who I am or what I am doing. Its still supposed to be a free country.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
6 posted on
08/26/2005 4:41:09 PM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
It sounds like unreasonable hassling to me at first reading, but obviously there is a lot of information not included in this story, such as what was going on that caused the officer to seek to identify the photographer.
7 posted on
08/26/2005 4:42:45 PM PDT by
jimtorr
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Whats gonna do whats gonna do when they come for you. Bad Cop bad Cop.
9 posted on
08/26/2005 4:43:33 PM PDT by
zipp_city
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Hope the guy gets taken down so he cant do this again. What a Nazi.
Papers Please!
10 posted on
08/26/2005 4:43:42 PM PDT by
Windsong
(FighterPilot)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Where I live the PD runs CIBRs on everybody they come in contact with. Pitiful
11 posted on
08/26/2005 4:45:37 PM PDT by
UB355
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
How about the "wanted subjects" board during briefing? Might she not have looked like a suspect under investigation? Someone on the "missing" board?
A cop (any citizen) has a right to ask another for ID. You also have the right to refuse, but depending on the circumstances, you have to deal with the consequences.
It is not considered an invasion of privacy.
13 posted on
08/26/2005 4:46:24 PM PDT by
xcamel
(Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I predict she will lose. Even if it gets to the Supremes. they ruled last year on stops in a motor vehicle. Now they will seal this crack in the law.
14 posted on
08/26/2005 4:46:57 PM PDT by
mad_as_he$$
(Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Left unanswered: Is this an illegal immigrant we're talking about?
15 posted on
08/26/2005 4:47:45 PM PDT by
thoughtomator
(Hey Senator! Leave those kids alone!)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Already been done. Already been to SCOTUS. Already been lost.
We're done.
papersplease.org
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I need more info before I can blame the cops here. One, what is the area like? If its a high crime area, or one with prostitution present, then maybe the officer had some reason to do this.
I do not trust the media to give all the details. There are some serious questions that need to be answered before can say which side is in the wrong.
It very well may be the officer overstepped his bounds. The fact that the officers supervisor backed him up leads me to think there was some reason for the request.
I guess the courts will work it all out, like it should.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
This sort of reminds me of those old black and white movies where the German Gestapo agent walks up to the hero and says "papers please".
19 posted on
08/26/2005 4:50:05 PM PDT by
yarddog
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Can I hire this guy to come over and kick my dog, too?You could, but someone in the private sector would do a better job, cheaper and your donuts would be safe.
22 posted on
08/26/2005 4:53:07 PM PDT by
magslinger
(They called Israel the land that GOD Himself gave his Chosen People the Jews.)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Heddlesten said he did not think she had committed a crime or was attempting to commit one Officer Heddlesten, what is YOUR Social Security number!
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Utah tends towards a rather regimented outlook on life. My town, for instance is run more like law by homeowner's association than a town. Most of the cities in the state think you should only have no more than two dogs, or one dog and one cat, and ferrets are a menace.
I suspect that there's some law somewhere that requires you to show ID if asked, even if without probable cause. Good that it's coming to light.
Anyway, found this site about Ms. Chamberlin's work:
http://spareroomgallery.com/
27 posted on
08/26/2005 4:55:34 PM PDT by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
More on Ms. Ortega de Chamberlin:
A native New Mexican, Tanya Ortega de Chamberlin recently returned from Cuba and Nicaragua where she focused on photography of architectural decay in the region. She says of her current work, "Standing in these rooms, one's natural response is to imagine what they once must have been, or on the other hand, what project they could become... the viewer may not want to reckon with each space in its current, isolating condition. I want to show these orphan spaces for what they are at present, not what they once were or could become."
29 posted on
08/26/2005 4:58:15 PM PDT by
Michael.SF.
('That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' Cindy Sheehan")
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I thougt it was illegal for people to require your SS# for ID purposes. This seems like info that he didn't need to know. I don't know about birth date and drivers liscense. It sounds fishy but I've heard of cops abusing their power in worse ways.
30 posted on
08/26/2005 4:59:22 PM PDT by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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