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Radical Muslims told to leave Australia (if they prefer Sharia law, a fundamental part of Islam)
AFP ^ | 8/24/2005 | AFP

Posted on 08/24/2005 10:01:16 AM PDT by Mark Felton

SYDNEY (AFP) - Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told to get out of Australia.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.

"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false.

"If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

Muslim schools will have to denounce terrorism as part of an effort to stamp out home-grown extremism under measures announced after Howard's meeting with 14 Islamic leaders Tuesday.

The prime minister called the meeting in the wake of last month's London bombings by British-born Muslims, amid fears that Australia could be the target of a similar attack by disaffected members of its small Muslim community.

"The purpose of the meeting was to identify ways of preventing the emergence of any terrorist behaviour in this country," Howard told commercial radio Wednesday.

"You won't change the minds of people who are hardened fanatics and hardened extremists. You have to identify them and take measures to ensure that they don't become a problem."

Asked if he was prepared to "get inside" mosques and schools to ensure there was no support for terrorism, Howard said: "Yes, to the extent necessary".

Britain, shaken by the rail and bus bombings which killed 56 people, is debating new powers which could include closing mosques where clerics are suspected of supporting extremists and deporting those who glorify suicide bombers.

Australia, which like Britain has troops in Iraq, is also contemplating tougher anti-terror legislation. which will be debated next month at a meeting between Howard and leaders of state governments.

Meanwhile, an Islamic youth organisation that was not invited to Howard's Tuesday meeting said it would call an alternative conference -- on September 11 -- for what it says is the 80 percent of Muslims who were not represented.

The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date's association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.

AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia.

Some 300,000 Muslims make up just 1.5 percent of Australia's population of 20 million.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; crushislam; islam; islamisevil; islamisnotareligion; muslim; muslims; september112005; sharia; sharialaw
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To: Mark Felton

This sounds a lot better than our Presidnet spouting off some "Religion of Peace" nonsense everytime someone or something blows up, WTG Aussies.


41 posted on 08/24/2005 11:06:20 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Mark Felton

A big HOOORAAAH to Big John and his cabinet.
Dime have ya, no other western nation has the pure guts to follow suit.


42 posted on 08/24/2005 11:09:11 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: trubluolyguy
Exactly!!  Can this actually happen here?  And can we do what Blair has said he'd do to 'radicals'?
43 posted on 08/24/2005 11:12:21 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Marine_Uncle

And probably EVEN if we get suitcase-nuked in one of our major cities. :-(


44 posted on 08/24/2005 11:23:27 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: Tequila25
This just in: Catholics are subservient to the Pope, will put loyalty to the Vatican above America.

That's like saying Jews want to replace the Constitution with the Talmud.
45 posted on 08/24/2005 11:25:09 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Mark Felton

Another good reason to shout down CAIR.


46 posted on 08/24/2005 11:26:08 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Good news for Australia!

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

47 posted on 08/24/2005 11:36:39 AM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
And probably EVEN if we get suitcase-nuked in one of our major cities.

Then We the People will have to deal with the situation. The muslims in this country believe the jihadis can do anything to us, and we won't burn down their mosques. I wouldn't stake my life on it, if I were them.

48 posted on 08/24/2005 11:40:05 AM PDT by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: softwarecreator
Exactly!! Can this actually happen here? And can we do what Blair has said he'd do to 'radicals'?

With the ACLU and the liberal Courts?

Nope

49 posted on 08/24/2005 11:41:29 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey Cindy ... tell us again why Our Country is not worth fighting for)
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To: Mark Felton

Wow! This is great to hear a leader speak like this. I hope this spreads. Countries need to stand up to the Islamic violence, instead of cowering and givng in. O' Canada, can you hear me?


50 posted on 08/24/2005 11:45:47 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Tequila25
This just in: Catholics are subservient to the Pope, will put loyalty to the Vatican above America.

DUMBA$$ post of year!

Bravo!

51 posted on 08/24/2005 11:48:08 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (The function of socialism is to raise suffering to a higher level.)
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To: Tequila25
"This just in: Catholics are subservient to the Pope, will put loyalty to the Vatican above America. "

The Pope endorses and supports the US government and the US Constitution. The Pope does not advocate the replacement of the Constitution with some Vatican law. Catholicism underwent a Reformation in the 16th century, Muslims have not.

That is why scholars state that the Muslim religion is stuck in the Dark Ages. They have not become enlightened about the role of government versus religion.

You should be embarassed to make such uneducated statements. It is just as well you are anonymous. (Frankly, I do not believe in anonymous posts.)

52 posted on 08/24/2005 11:53:43 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("He who disdains instruction despises his own soul.")
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Starting with Omar Ahmed (see post #1).


53 posted on 08/24/2005 11:54:25 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Mark Felton
Well done PM Howard, throwing the radical clerics on the poliical barbie!


54 posted on 08/24/2005 12:02:42 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: US_MilitaryRules

We will never be able to do this here. Our free speech is so ardently defended even when it is clearly detrimental that we cannot get the political will power to do it. Witness the firing of a talk show host recently.


55 posted on 08/24/2005 12:10:06 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: Mark Felton
"AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia."

How would the Australians say it? "Clear Off, mate."

Now, I would say "Get the ---- out you POS SOB's".

56 posted on 08/24/2005 12:21:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: Mark Felton

Wow, only one person understood my analogy and made a coherent counter argument. Congratulations, Mark (if that is indeed your real name).

It just makes me slightly ill when I read the litany of "Throw out all dem towelheads!" comments on articles like this. People should be judged as indivuals, not as faceless groups. All of the american muslims that I know personally do not want sharia law to overturn the Constitution.

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." - John 13:34

And yet I see so much hate in these threads.


57 posted on 08/24/2005 12:24:46 PM PDT by Tequila25
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To: Mark Felton

NNnnnnnnnnnoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


58 posted on 08/24/2005 12:26:54 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Mark Felton

Right on Mark. (pardon the pun)


59 posted on 08/24/2005 12:28:47 PM PDT by milford421
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US Const. already replaced with "case law" imo


60 posted on 08/24/2005 12:28:48 PM PDT by omega4179 (SEAL THE BORDERS. Yes You, W.)
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