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'Christian' Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Venezuela's President Chavez
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Posted on 08/22/2005 5:43:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Jorge
Don't hyperventilate Jorge...
Aside from not answering my question, let's delve a bit into your angry response...
"I suppose you think that because of Jesus we should let terrorists massacre our people and do NOTHING to retaliate because of we must "forgive"???"
Chavez massacred our people?
"We should have allowed the BTK murderer go free because of Jesus and the NT?"
Huh? now you're reaching Jorge, I've seen pictures of that BTK guy and he looks nothing like Chavez.
"Do I really have to explain these things to you?"
Uh, yeah, if you're gonna continue equating Assassinating a Foreign Leader with the BTK Killer, using the OT as justification.
Here, I'll give you some simpler questions this time, what other Foriegn Leaders should be assassinated? Who would Jesus Assassinate?
"Nice try!"
I wish I could say the same for you, but you went off on a rant and didn't bother to answer my question...
To: Conservative til I die
Obviously you've missed out on the last 40 years of political history. Christ's Spirit has moved among the people and put the Republicans into all the offices and elevated the Neo-cons to the highest honors.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:25:41 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
(/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
To: Rebelbase
I'm also a Christian and I agree with him. If someone would have done that to Hitler there wouldn't have been so many humans murdered.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:26:23 PM PDT
by
fish hawk
(I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
To: Rebelbase
Venezuela fixes gas prices at 12.5 cents a gallon
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:27:02 PM PDT
by
ElRushbo
(Harley Riders against Elton John)
To: PaulaB
No but God did in the Old Testament..Jesus' coming did not change rules made in the Old Testament
So the Old Testament supersedes the New? Funny, this new-fangled "American Israelism" theory that quite a few here are promoting didn't seem to exist for the first 1900 or so years of Christian history.
The Old Testament deals with specific instances having to do with Israel and its enemies. It is not license for anyone to speak for God and decide to smote who they think are his enemies on their own.
To: Jorge
What I can tell you is that Christ didn't have very much to say at all about politics. And despite how you'd like to use religion to pimp your foreign policy ideas, their is no religious objectives to be accomplished by assassinating Chavez. How would you know?
"Amurrhiken" freedom is not a Christian objective. America is not Christendom. I'm a Catholic first, an American second, a GOP member third, and a neo-con last.
To: Rebelbase
Being that I am not a Christian, I can say that I actually agree with Pat on this one. Hugo el amigo de Fidel must go. Yesterday.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:28:52 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
To: Conservative til I die
I think the word you were looking for was "smite", as in "to Smite" "Jane said she was going to Smite John"
I'm not sure, but I think "smote" would be the term for after the fact "John Smote Jane, before she could Smite him"
Granted, I could be wrong about that...
:)
To: Rebelbase
Show me where the New Testament advocates church leaders to call for assassination.
You musta missed the chapter where Jesus got the GOP nomination for head of the Sanhedrin.
To: Brilliant
Another reason that liberals distrust Christians.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:31:34 PM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(War is Mankind's way of ridding the world of the tyranny caused by liberalism)
To: Rebelbase
Pat Robertson is not a church leader, even though the left likes to say that he is the spokesman for conservative Christian. He has a Christian based news show.
I am a devout Christian and I do not think that his remarks are out of line at all.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:32:55 PM PDT
by
Coldwater Creek
("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
To: Rebelbase
These men are supposed to lead by scriptural example, not their fleshly beliefs.
Where do you get that from? Who says that?? Where in the N.T???
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:36:24 PM PDT
by
danamco
To: Lord_Baltar
Chavez massacred our people? Who said he did?
You attempted to misrepresent the New Testiment teachings as somehow prohibiting our using violence against foreign enemies.
I was addressing the fallacy of your argument.
Don't let your personal anger against those who discredit your positions distort your judgment. Try to follow the debate more closely.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:38:59 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: Loud Mime
Who cares what liberals think about Christians???????
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:40:49 PM PDT
by
Coldwater Creek
("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
To: Jorge
You attempted to misrepresent the New Testiment teachings as somehow prohibiting our using violence against foreign enemies.
You're omitting the rest of your thought. There's nothing evil about using violence against enemies in legitimate self-defense. Pre-emptive strikes almost never are permissible.
To: Jorge
Is God commanding this? Did I miss something here?
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:42:32 PM PDT
by
Melas
(The dumber the troll, the longer the thread)
To: F16Fighter
Yes! Christianity is not Islam, and hasn't really behaved in that way since the Thirty Years War. For a Christian leader to call for assassination, even of a person like Hitler, cannot be allowed. Catholics have spent fifty years trying to come to grips with the actions of Claus von Stauffenberg.
While no one condemns the action of this devout Catholic in trying to kill Hitler, you will find very few in the Church who hold his effort up as worthy of emulation.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:42:39 PM PDT
by
xkaydet65
(Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
To: Jorge
"Don't let your personal anger against those who discredit your positions distort your judgment. Try to follow the debate more closely."
Jorge, I'm hardly angry, and you've done little to discredit my position through you fanatical lip waving.
As for any fallacy of argument, I'll make it as simple as I can for you, What would Jesus say about Assassinating a Foreign Leader?
To: Jorge
I'm gonna' have to re-read the New Testement. I just don't remember any of this stuff.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:43:09 PM PDT
by
Types_with_Fist
(I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
To: wagglebee
You're sounding an awful lot like muslim terrorist.
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posted on
08/22/2005 7:44:47 PM PDT
by
Melas
(The dumber the troll, the longer the thread)
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