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To: CIB-173RDABN
Armed chair QB'n is sitting back , thinking, without the stress of being there and making a cool calculated thoughtful opinion hopefully. Call these opinions what ya want as I do with the lable "Armed chair QB'n" but they are just opinions. Everyone of em here .

I didn't say what he did was right or wrong. I said I would have done it differently yet I am just "Armed Chair QB'n" or playing Monday Morning Quarter Back with my comments etc etc ...just a phrase. Like feed back, after action reports, training, what if etc etc ....

Didn't mean to get yer knickers in a wad by using it. Sorry if I did.......

422 posted on 08/21/2005 11:29:53 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Didn't mean to get yer knickers in a wad by using it. Sorry if I did.......


Fair enough. However, I would hope anyone that carries a firearm will have done three things, (1) Been to the firing range to make sure they can hit what they aim at, (2) clean the weapon to make sure it will work when needed, and (3) think about when and under what conditions they are prepared to use deadly force.

The time for number 3 is when you make the decision to carry a gun.

I honestly believe CJ would not have pulled a gun or shot anyone for being noisy. But, did the other patrons in the restaurant know that? What was going through their minds is the missing element in this discussion.

As this is not a jury, and CJ has no fear of loss of his life or freedom from this discussion, the rules of evidence are a little less formal.

The subject is not about open carry (which I have no problem with).

The subject is not about telling other patrons they are too loud (they may very well have been).

The subject is how far can you, as a private citizen go, in enforcing your desire for a quiet breakfast?

If CJ had not had a weapon on his hip, the question is would he have done the same thing? Only he can answer.

But, if you take the weapon out of the story, then I would still consider him a fool. There are some things worth getting your ass kicked over (and taking on a table of young drunks is a sure way to have that happen), but this was not one of them.

But the gun is in the story, in fact, it is the very purpose of CJ’s story.

It is the gun he was wearing that allowed him to face up to at table of ten individuals.

My point is he was very lucky, for several reasons. All of them have already been stated, both by myself and others.

If the young men at that table had not shown restraint, for what ever reason, this would have ended up badly for CJ. Regardless of if he survived or not. His world as he knows it would have ended this morning, and for what, because he was annoyed that some young people were making too much noise?

So CJ, if you are still out there man, think about what happen this morning. Consider God gave you a second chance. Please think of what may have been, and formulate in your mind those situations that are worth pulling your gun. When faced with something like this again, think back to this, and ask yourself, is my life in danger? Is someone else’s life in danger? Then perhaps you need not intervene. But it is your decision.

440 posted on 08/21/2005 11:55:36 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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