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To: joanie-f
We tried using rows of fences and steel walls, along with 32 guards per mile to seal a 66 mile section of the border in California. It was called Operation Gate Keeper and it failed. See the Inspector General’s Report linked on my profile page.

Walls and fences don’t stop people determined to cross. (Israel Allows people to cross at gates therefore they don’t need to climb the fence) The Berlin Wall didn’t stop anyone, it was the guards every 50 yards with machine guns who stopped people who would otherwise have just climbed over. But if a ratio 0f 32 guards per mile weren’t enough at Operation Gate Keeper, your 9 guards per mile certainly won’t be effective.

Since 9/11 the DHS has been developing a “Virtual” fence to aid in securing the border against terrorists and smugglers. They have spent about $5 Billion on high tech surveillance. I posted an article on it yesterday and Tom DeLasys has been mentioning it this week.

The virtual fence includes sensory equipment mounted on blimps that are tethered, satellites, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, manned fixed wing and rotary winged aircraft, towers, and even underground.

If a guard sees a truck crossing the border about a mile away all he can do is radio in the location and direction of the truck.

But consider the possibilities of a virtual fence. A satellite potentially can spot the truck ten miles before it gets to the border, read the license plate, cross reference it to known smugglers, farmers or government agencies, compare the depth of it’s tracks to known tare weights to determine the payload it’s carrying, and redirect an UAV if considered necessary.

The sensors might be able to detect radiation, explosives, drugs or other materials. Any individuals getting out of the truck could be individually tracked.

Border guards in land vehicles or helicopters could then be guided to intercept the truck or passengers if it fell outside certain parameters.

This is the future for securing our borders, not brick and mortar fences, but the anti-illegals will not be happy with it and they will continue to say that President Bush is a traitor for not protecting us from terrorists…….

131 posted on 08/21/2005 8:10:03 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: joanie-f

People will try to tell you Operation Gatekeeper did not work. Try Googling "Operation Gatekeeper" and you will find a bunch of OBL's screaming because it worked so well, illegals can no longer cross there and no must go through the desert. You will first find a site that shows how many illegals it stopped then a bunch of sites screaming because "Operation Gatekeeper" is killing illegals trying to cross in the desert. It not only worked, it worked too well.

Little fences may not work, but walls most certainly do.


132 posted on 08/21/2005 8:17:31 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: bayourod
As time passed apprehension numbers at Imperial Beach began to fall, while apprehension numbers at stations further east began to rise. This development suggested that some illegal crossers had abandoned Imperial Beach and shifted their entry efforts to stations further east.11

I don't suppose you actually read that or expected anyone to read the article posted on your home page did you? And where does it say it was not a success? The above was posted from your article. It said there were many allegations of falsification of numbers which in conclusion, the Attorney General decided were not true.

I must go to bed but I'm anxiously awaiting your answer. Not just more rhetoric but perhaps some true posts from the article you have posted on your home page that I cannot find in any way says a wall does not work.

137 posted on 08/21/2005 8:33:11 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: bayourod
This is the future for securing our borders, not brick and mortar fences, but the anti-illegals will not be happy with it and they will continue to say that President Bush is a traitor for not protecting us from terrorists…….

So, should FReepers take this to mean that you are admitting to being pro-illegal immigration and that you condone lawbreaking by illegal aliens?

144 posted on 08/21/2005 9:22:14 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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