Chinese Prove Marx Right: Deracinated US Business Elite Lobbies for Chinese Interests

AmericanEconomicAlert.org ^ | Thursday, August 18, 2005 | William R. Hawkins

[Willie Green]

"Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains."

--Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:119

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And finally, to save everybody the time and trouble of looking it up:
"deracinated" = "plucked up by the roots" or "uprooted"

[Willie Green]

ping

[Kevin OMalley]

There are some free trade absolutists here on FR that would fit that profile.

[marvlus]

Why does the word "whore" come to mind?

[Willie Green]

Why does the word "whore" come to mind?

Perhaps you're making an association with the corrupt, incumbant Republicrats.
It seems that they're the only ones who are never deracinated.

[e_castillo]

ping

[Willie Green]

Well thanks for the "ping"...
but I hope you don't mind if I treat it as a "bump" instead.

;^)

[TXBSAFH]

Calling these people whores is and insult! To sex workers everywhere.

[Ex-expromissor]

"This is not the first time in history that bankers and business interests have become enthralled with a regime whose ambitions pose a threat to their own country."

Duh! And it will continue to happen. Wall Street played a huge part in Nazi Germany's rise to power. Can you say... "Council On Foreign Relations?" Same old crap. But nobody seems to care or believe it. Tin Foil Hats Kind Of Itch Any Way... :-)

[A. Pole]

Beijing's leaders focus on who is in charge. They may have abandoned communism, but not Marxist political analysis. The U.S.-style state "is essentially a capitalist machine, the state of the capitalists," according to Friedrich Engels. Combine that with Karl Marx's observation that "big industry created a class...with which nationality is already dead" and Beijing believes it knows how to control America by manipulating a detached, self-absorbed elite. Thus when Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao visited the U.S. in 2003, he went to the New York Stock Exchange, the American Bankers Association, and the Chamber of Commerce before he went to the White House. Marxist theory has told them where the real power resides in America, and it has nothing to do with democracy.

Or maybe Chicoms are better Marxists that Soviets ever were? See my tagline.

[junta]

In the interest of fairness I will represent the globalist ideologues who call themselves conservatives. "Nothing but racist, protectionist, isolationist, anti-semetic, homophobic, mysogynist reactionary drivel, and that is all I have to say about this article.

[Clintonfatigued]

"The Chinese really don't do any lobbying. The heavy lifting is done by the American business community."

The American business community is becoming more of a fifth column than the silly left-wing activists.

[Iscool]

There are some free trade absolutists here on FR that would fit that profile.

Ya figure it's a lot of Freepers or just a few that are extremely loud???

Combine that with Karl Marx's observation that "big industry created a class...with which nationality is already dead" and Beijing believes it knows how to control America by manipulating a detached, self-absorbed elite.

Speaks for itself...

[WilliamofCarmichael]

[America's] detached, self-absorbed elite. . .it has nothing to do with democracy. . .money rules and nothing else matters

If you disagree with free tradin' away technology, wealth, and jobs you are called a "protectionist." It's wrong to want to protect the USA?

Deracinated U.S. businesses? Why "free traders" say that those are jobs that Americans should not do, lowly factory jobs. No one aspires to a life of a factory worker, they rationalize. Icky.

[meadsjn]

Combine that with Karl Marx's observation that "big industry created a class...with which nationality is already dead" and Beijing believes it knows how to control America by manipulating a detached, self-absorbed elite. Thus when Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao visited the U.S. in 2003, he went to the New York Stock Exchange, the American Bankers Association, and the Chamber of Commerce before he went to the White House. Marxist theory has told them where the real power resides in America, and it has nothing to do with democracy.

We have met the enemy ... and they are hiding behind the skirts of corporate/government bureaurcracy and online anonymous handles.

[William Terrell]

Sun Tzu:"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles"

Of course. If you know the enemy can kick your ass and know you are a 90 pound weakling, there won't be a hundred battles to fear.

[A. Pole]

Let me give you the whole passage:

Thus we may know that there are five essentials for victory:

(1) He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.
(2) He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.
(3) He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks.
(4) He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
(5) He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.

Hence the saying:

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.

If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.

If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

[jpsb]

bump, good read.

[Jerr]

As has been said in the past, the communists will sell us the rope to hang ourselves --- after all, nearly everything is made in Commie China anymore, anyway!!!!

Time to shut them down before it is too late; however, it won't be done by any of the current business executives or many of our current politicians!!!

[GOP_1900AD]

Yes, they are better Marxists. The only Soviet who was their equal was Lenin. But none that came after him had the correct elements of strategy. Deng Xiao Ping was a hard core Communist. And so is Hu Jintao.