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To: aft_lizard
Take for instance I know that tomorrow the sun will rise, or maybe tonight a meteor will destroy the earth, or clouds will cover the sky or it might rain. Knowing all these could happen, if any of them do does that imply I have control over them?

You do not "know" these things as God does. You did not create them and you do not control them. You miss the point. God created man and when he created man he knew what they would do. That is the control. Man has no free will. Free-will would imply that he could change his destiny from that which God thought he knew.

286 posted on 08/18/2005 7:59:09 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

Then you dont understand free will at all. GOD gave it to us, we did not take it or create it, why would GOD create something for which he gives freewill then remove its sole property by controlling it? Your initial argument was that foreknowledge by GOD meant since he knew all possible outcomes in your life, he therefore controlls your choices and it isnt freewill.


311 posted on 08/18/2005 8:09:37 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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