Posted on 08/18/2005 5:17:34 PM PDT by curiosity
You are just throwing out pseudo intellectual gobbledygook, and when you are called on it you just want to throw a little tantrum about it. You are engaged in the philosophical equivalent of stopping your heels. That might have worked with Daddy, but that does not work in th real world at all.
There is no thought with out metaphysics, and there is not civilization without ethics.
Your fellow citizens will have their say, get used to it, sister. You need to understand that, as you need to get over your self importance - what do you think, you just pontificate and everyone that disagrees with you just goes away?
Too bad about that ego of yours - the immaturity too.
Are you or are you not free to choose your child's private education?
That takes a fair amount of background in biology to explain.
I agree completely.
Madrassas or our own Medieval period.
ID has nothing to do with theology.
Sorry, but all that shows is the effect of memetics. If you want to win your point, show me a biology text from pre-1980 that uses "micro" and "macro".
"And watch your language."
I say exactly what I mean--it's called "plain talk".
Natural theology, Like Plato's
ID is more applicable to UFO's than to either science or theology. Complexity can be found in countless lifeless entities.
Speaking of insults and hatefulness....I wonder how many Freepers took a look at the title of this thread....
and decided they didn't need to be aggravated, so they skipped this thread entirely.
I think I am being helpful to the evolutionists, by letting them know that they aren't helping their cause by being "unscientifically" emotional.
:-)
If fact it is cognitively, intellectually, socially and politically impossible to have "freedom from religion,"
Our entire internal world, our civilization and our political foundations are deeply shaped and informed by it. Too suggest otherwise is just preposterous, and a thoroughly narcissistic and solipsistic understanding of what civilization is, or what the human is.
Likewise you notion of "choosing your children's private education is both spurious and specious.
1) Why should parents be forced to withdraw from public schools rather than decide to change them? Are the not coerced in to supporting them? Are they mere serf? hardly seems democratic or "public" to me.
2) There are no value neutral curriculum - they do not exist in a vacuum. Some group of people decide these things, and that group promotes its own believes and agenda. It is intellectually dishonest to suggest otjherwise, and it is arrogant for you to imagine that you have the right to foist your believe system on others without any political form or political outcome.
3) Secular humanism and Socialism are really just other belief systems and apply a quasi-supernatural mandate to their core beliefs as well. "Socialist man," Scientific materialism, "Scientism" or even the efficacy of reason as an ultimate moral arbiter are no less mystical or religious assertions than a belief in the Virgin Mary, and a great deal more harmful, I might add. Nothing could be clearer from the history of the 20th century.
4) In principle, no, parents cannot chose if there are economic. geographic or logistical limitations placed on them. This is a particularly specious formulation, and for obvious reasons.
5) You assume that your position is the majority position birth nationally and regionally. I fail to see how this is so.
So, based on what you have articulated, I find you position faulty in its whole and its parts, and not a serious position whatsoever.
This is still a free country, thank goodness.
Yes, you do have the freedom to be creative with your child's private education.
At least for now.
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You in fact completely ignored it.
Do you think this is just an echo chamber?
Why even bother with you?
And no, it is not a free country when the NEA and the Left controls the public school system. That is just the point.
I forget names, but I saw an article about him within the last two months. Apparently he's one of the largest donors to the Discovery Institute (which to it's credit does other valuable conservative things outside of attacking evolution). Apparently this guy is a gung ho creationist among other things, and just like the lefty non-profits do what their donors want, DI does as well.
Money is money.
You may be missing my point.
You have far more creative power than you realize.
You are an individual, not a pawn of the left.
The only proof of any such miracles is the Bible. That is hardly what I would call an unbiased source.
Jesus was killed for, and while, proclaiming Himself to be the one true God, and the only path to God.
Jesus was killed for getting involved in a complicated political, imperial, religious, social and colonial situation. In all honesty, the Romans didn't care that he proclaimed that there was only one God. In their mind, he was just another crackpot in Judea.
Jesus resurrected himself, and that event was reliably witnessed by hundreds of people.
Again, the only source for this claim is the Bible.
Countless people have accepted Jesus' words as truth, and have found that simply by doing so, amazing things have occured in their lives.
That can be said of any other religion. Even Islam.
Receding from that fight in that square may be "creative," but it is most certainly cowardly.
Lastly, you have no notion of the depths of my creativity.
"...For 40 years I've been comfortable with a personal belief that any evolution that has taken place has occurred within a Universe set up by God, which operates according to His rules...."
Seems totally reasonable to me.
"...Why are evolutionists using overkill and using personal attacks on IDers?.."
The word "evolutionist" is usually used as an epithet implying an unreasonable belief in evolution, sort of like being a fan of some losing sports team (notice howI carefully avoid naming one. Most of the posters I read defending the correctness of evolution are scientists or engineers. Most of the opposition seems to come from those not educated any relevant field.
What type of PR lessons would you suggest?
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