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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

ID has nothing to do with theology.


566 posted on 08/19/2005 8:45:35 AM PDT by soupcon
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To: soupcon

Natural theology, Like Plato's


568 posted on 08/19/2005 8:46:44 AM PDT by RobbyS (chirho)
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To: soupcon
ID has nothing to do with theology.

Then why, when I post a creation story like the one below and ask why this version should not be taught in schools, do I usually get a response saying the Hebrew version (i.e., the bible) has attributes which my story lacks, and that only the bible contains the true story of creation? Is this not theology and religion, and one particular version of theology and religion?


Cherokee Creation Story

Long ago, before there were any people, the world was young and water covered everything. The earth was a great island floating above the seas, suspended by four rawhide ropes representing the four sacred directions. It hung down from the crystal sky. There were no people, but the animals lived in a home above the rainbow. Needing space, they sent Water Beetle to search for room under the seas. Water Beetle dove deep and brought up mud that spread quickly, turning into land that was flat and too soft and wet for the animals to live on.

Grandfather Buzzard was sent to see if the land had hardened. When he flew over the earth, he found the mud had become solid; he flapped in for a closer look. The wind from his wings created valleys and mountains, and that is why the Cherokee territory has so many mountains today.

As the earth stiffened, the animals came down from the rainbow. It was still dark. They needed light, so they pulled the sun out from behind the rainbow, but it was too bright and hot. A solution was urgently needed. The shamans were told to place the sun higher in the sky. A path was made for it to travel--from east to west--so that all inhabitants could share in the light.

The plants were placed upon the earth. The Creator told the plants and animals to stay awake for seven days and seven nights. Only a few animals managed to do so, including the owls and mountain lions, and they were rewarded with the power to see in the dark. Among the plants, only the cedars, spruces, and pines remained awake. The Creator told these plants that they would keep their hair during the winter, while the other plants would lose theirs.

People were created last. The women were able to have babies every seven days. They reproduced so quickly that the Creator feared the world would soon become too crowded. So after that the women could have only one child per year, and it has been that way ever since.


595 posted on 08/19/2005 9:56:44 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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soupcon: ID has nothing to do with theology.

porkchops 4 mahound: No, like it or not, intelligent design is about the hand of GOD.

When you ID guys reach coherence, let us know which of these you intend to teach in biology class.

604 posted on 08/19/2005 10:12:24 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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