Posted on 08/18/2005 2:15:48 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
'Bind, Torture and Kill' serial killer Dennis Rader was ordered to serve 10 consecutive life terms Thursday during a tear filled hearing in which his victims called him a monster and said he should be 'thrown into a deep hole and left to rot.'
The sentence of a minimum of 175 years without chance of parole was the longest possible that Judge Gregory Waller could deliver.
The state of Kansas had no death penalty at the time the killings were committed.
Earlier Rader stood in front of a courtroom filled with his victim's family members, tell the court he believes he is a Christian and he knew he would be caught for his crimes.
Instead of asking forgiveness or a lenient sentence, Rader rambled off details about his series of murders. In a bizarre moment of triumph, he ran through a list of people he wanted to think.
He also told the judge he was honest and cooperated with police after his arrest, then said 'he blew so much smoke' in telling his story that 'nobody knows fact from fiction.'
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
Here in Texas, being a child molester is about the safest sentence you can do. Why? Because you get to serve out your entire sentence in special blocks and prisons with nothing but sex offenders. You never, ever come into contact with the guys who want a piece of flesh and not a piece of ***.
Dahmer just insured that future serial killers were better taken care of. Likewise the well publicized death of Geogahn has insured that child molesters have an easier time in prison.
I wouldn't presume to second guess God.
Want to place a wager? I'll bet you he dies of natural causes in prison at some distant date.
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The founders understood this very well and wrote a solid, incontrovertible clause in Article 1 of the United States Constitution expressly forbidding ex post facto laws.
Because as urban legends go, it's a comforting one. In a nutshell that's why so many naivly believe he'll die a horrible death in prison. Personally, I think he'll die of natural causes.
That's life. What if I get 2 years for grand theft auto and you get 5? What if I get 20 for rape and you get 40? Our system is not, I repeat not designed around uniform sentencing and it never was.
Are there other parts of the Constitution you don't understand or is it merely Article 1? Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden in the Constitution for good readon. No measure on the ballot can constitutionally make punishments retroactive.
Thank you, that post was uplifting.
Or else, "sincerely converted."
But, that's applying the standard of Heaven as being a club of human behaviors.
We're promised eternal life in Heaven, but that it will be a spiritual state of "all things" otherwise passing away, a place COMPLETELY DEVOID OF EVIL.
Our human state is fallen. We live in this earthly realm with evil, in a fallen environment. Evil such as this BTK enacted/allowed/proliferated has no place in Heaven and God doesn't describe eternal life as a continuance of our human suffering, this earthly realm, but of a place DEVOID OF EVIL. No more evil. No more suggestions or threats of evil. All God, all the time. All Good of God all the time.
Such that, Heaven is promised to us who God finds pleasing at judgement (longer story but I paraphrase here), that we will enter in spiritual form, renewed, with all that is not of God not accompanying us.
Such that, if this dreadful human is judged spiritually by God as having sincerely repented (again I paraphras), then who it will be in Heave will be devoid of evil inorder and as he exists in Heaven.
Thus, it won't be the "BTK killer" but his renewed and "edited" soul.
All the rest of us do know, spiritually and academically, is what we are told by God and Christ and what is said (by Christ) is that even if a man's sins be (as terrible as imaginable) they will pass away (under certain conditions, again I paraphrase), be forgiven (more paraphrasement here), because of Christ's gift on behalf of us all (he redeemed us all, all sin).
It's complicated and beyond most human understanding. God doesn't tell us to ignore or not punish humanly terrible sins, or even all sins, He just says that He has ways we cannot understand now, but will if and when we get where He is: heaven. By His terms, is the summation.
On the OTHER hand, God's no patsy, not "human" in the sense that He can't be fooled or manipulated and thus, others here try to point out the perfection of His judgement.
BTK can join his first female victim in Heaven, and she can look up and say, "Oh thank you, God, for allowing me to be slowly tortured to death in the spring of my life only to end up spending eternity with the monster who made me regret I was ever born."
It certainly is beyond my understanding.
Regardless of the safety precautions, I still expect to read the morning rag an article about the demise of that P O S.
God can be merciful because Christ paid the price demanded by His Justice for all of our sins, including murderers.
The Apostle Paul met those he sent to their deaths.
And I am sure he was welcomed by them, the past suffering long forgotten.
It certainly is beyond my understanding.
That is why it is called ámazing grace'
I stand by mine. You stand by yours and we'll see what happens.
Chill beavus.
Give BTK a big hug for me when you get to your destination. Maybe you & Dahmer can play harp together.
Chill jw777. LOL!
That's one way of putting it. 'Nonsensical grace' would be another.
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