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BTK Gets 10 Consecutive Life Terms (175 Yrs. w/o Parole)
CBS News ^ | 8/18/05

Posted on 08/18/2005 2:15:48 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

'Bind, Torture and Kill' serial killer Dennis Rader was ordered to serve 10 consecutive life terms Thursday during a tear filled hearing in which his victims called him a monster and said he should be 'thrown into a deep hole and left to rot.'

The sentence of a minimum of 175 years without chance of parole was the longest possible that Judge Gregory Waller could deliver.

The state of Kansas had no death penalty at the time the killings were committed.

Earlier Rader stood in front of a courtroom filled with his victim's family members, tell the court he believes he is a Christian and he knew he would be caught for his crimes.

Instead of asking forgiveness or a lenient sentence, Rader rambled off details about his series of murders. In a bizarre moment of triumph, he ran through a list of people he wanted to think.

He also told the judge he was honest and cooperated with police after his arrest, then said 'he blew so much smoke' in telling his story that 'nobody knows fact from fiction.'

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: btk; btkkiller; deathpenalty; dennisrader
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To: gopwinsin04
In this case, I would have preferred 10 LIFE sentences. As in the ten needy organ recipients.
141 posted on 08/19/2005 7:49:14 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
To watch him today musing over the similarities between himself and his victims, the fact that he also likes dogs and gardening and the AF, was nauseating.

It was absolutely disturbing to watch. I swear it was like he believed he was getting a lifetime achievement award at some sick ceremony, hoping he wouldn't leave anyone of his acceptance speech. Psychopaths have no insight into their sickness, you're right. Hey Rader you freak! Your orgasm was more important than the life of that poor child. AS IF WE CARE what your thoughts are about your "team" ! Die and burn, sicko!

142 posted on 08/19/2005 7:59:48 PM PDT by Antioch (Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
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To: D-fendr
Yes, His forgiveness is bigger than any sin. This one will have some time to explore it, if he chooses.

As Saint Maria Goretti's life ebbed away from the multiple stab wounds she suffered from her attacker Alessandro Serenelli, her last actions in this world were constant prayer in the hope God would save him from the fires of Hell. She would have done so for Denis Rader as well. Love is stronger than death, Amen.

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143 posted on 08/19/2005 8:18:56 PM PDT by Antioch (Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
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To: Antioch

thank you very much for your post...


144 posted on 08/19/2005 8:50:52 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Voltage
BTK Gets 10 Consecutive Life Terms (175 Yrs. w/o Parole)

So this means, what. . . ? He's out in eight years?

145 posted on 08/19/2005 8:53:20 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: gopwinsin04

A lot of victims and survivors of victims think that a death penalty is too easy a solution for such horrific acts as some commit. Life in prison without parole is at least enough opportunity for the victims and survivors to work out their grief, at least to try to...while a death penalty doesn't effectively "punish" for those seeking vengeance, or even punishment. Not in this world, anyway.

I'm glad this monster got multiple life sentences but I fear for those he is in contact with while living out the terms.


146 posted on 08/19/2005 9:13:10 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: jw777

I honestly don't think that there's the ability in the heart and soul of this guy to behave faithfully to God, much less to reason among humans. A braggard, yes, I saw that, too, but mostly...I just think anyone who is capable of what this guy has done is not capable of a whole lot otherwise. Christ says he will and can forgive even the worst sins so I guess this is a case of it being up to God to deal with the guy.


147 posted on 08/19/2005 9:20:32 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: gopwinsin04

WHAT EVER CAME OF INSTANT JUSTICE!!!!!!!


148 posted on 08/20/2005 7:01:45 AM PDT by Schichtel (Scorch)
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To: gopwinsin04

Ten life sentences, means he gets out in 18 months.../*scarasm off


149 posted on 08/21/2005 2:54:49 AM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight the Muslim Army in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Check my homepage)
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To: jw777
bravley spoken.

You think people here will try to bring me harm for saying so?

150 posted on 08/21/2005 7:15:21 AM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: beavus
Salvation is a free gift to all. On the other hand, God is merciful but he is not unjust. Human speculation about what will happen in the final judgment of any particular man or woman is necessarily based on incomplete knowledge and a partial understanding of that man or woman and what God knows.

The principles of salvation are eternal and true even if our ability to forecast their application in a particular case is muddy and unsure. All we can be really sure of is that in the day of judgment we will be absolutely awestruck by the absolute majesty and perfect unerring application of God's mercy and justice.

151 posted on 08/21/2005 7:40:02 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
Salvation is a free gift to all. On the other hand, God is merciful but he is not unjust. Human speculation about what will happen in the final judgment of any particular man or woman is necessarily based on incomplete knowledge and a partial understanding of that man or woman and what God knows.

I know enough about BTK to pass judgement on BTK. If God chooses to populate Heaven with BTKs, then I known enough about God as well.

The principles of salvation are eternal and true even if our ability to forecast their application in a particular case is muddy and unsure. All we can be really sure of is that in the day of judgment we will be absolutely awestruck by the absolute majesty and perfect unerring application of God's mercy and justice.

Let's just say that if BTK walks through the Pearlies, I remain skeptical. I prefer a slightly more exclusive club.

152 posted on 08/21/2005 8:14:28 AM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: beavus

no, no, not at all. I was speaking in terms of defaming god by calling him an idiot.


153 posted on 08/22/2005 8:56:36 AM PDT by jw777
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To: BIRDS

I agree. From his ramblings and bragging, it doesn't appear that he has come to the point of being sincere. He'll get humbled real quick in prison.


154 posted on 08/22/2005 8:58:19 AM PDT by jw777
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To: gopwinsin04

Even BTK knows he cannot complete his sentence. He told the judge: "175 years! I can't do that much time!"

The judge said, "That's okay, just do the best you can."
(sarcasm)

Well, maybe you are right. Maybe the best he can do is five years.


155 posted on 08/22/2005 9:36:23 AM PDT by daviscupper
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To: jw777
no, no, not at all. I was speaking in terms of defaming god by calling him an idiot.

Why should I fear God? It's not as though He would create some vicious depraved monster to kidnap me and slowly torture me to death. No, He'd never do anything like that.

Anyone who embraces BTK merits defaming, whether it be you, John Doe, or God. Maybe the person defaming God is the person who presumes He would forgive BTK.

156 posted on 08/22/2005 4:00:09 PM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: beavus

and maybe, just maybe, that person is you. chill beavus


157 posted on 08/22/2005 4:23:11 PM PDT by jw777
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To: jw777

That person is you, in post 30. I'm quite chilly, thanks.


158 posted on 08/22/2005 4:24:56 PM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: beavus

pompous a$$. take a hike


159 posted on 08/22/2005 4:26:23 PM PDT by jw777
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To: jw777
he will be forgiven by god, if he is sincere, but i saw a braggard today.

A man ought to be able to stand by his words, or retract them. Chill jw777.

160 posted on 08/22/2005 4:30:25 PM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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