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BTK Gets 10 Consecutive Life Terms (175 Yrs. w/o Parole)
CBS News ^ | 8/18/05

Posted on 08/18/2005 2:15:48 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

'Bind, Torture and Kill' serial killer Dennis Rader was ordered to serve 10 consecutive life terms Thursday during a tear filled hearing in which his victims called him a monster and said he should be 'thrown into a deep hole and left to rot.'

The sentence of a minimum of 175 years without chance of parole was the longest possible that Judge Gregory Waller could deliver.

The state of Kansas had no death penalty at the time the killings were committed.

Earlier Rader stood in front of a courtroom filled with his victim's family members, tell the court he believes he is a Christian and he knew he would be caught for his crimes.

Instead of asking forgiveness or a lenient sentence, Rader rambled off details about his series of murders. In a bizarre moment of triumph, he ran through a list of people he wanted to think.

He also told the judge he was honest and cooperated with police after his arrest, then said 'he blew so much smoke' in telling his story that 'nobody knows fact from fiction.'

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: btk; btkkiller; deathpenalty; dennisrader
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To: Non-Sequitur

Doesn't sound like a great deal of fun to me.

And why hurry sending him on to final judgement? That really is for keeps.

What's more, keeping people alive at the taxpayers expenses means more good jobs in the prison industry.

I don't think any lawyer anywhere could make any kind of case for letting this bloke out.

Also, the relatives of the victims said he should rot in a deep pit. This prison regime sounds like the closest they can do.


121 posted on 08/19/2005 6:51:26 AM PDT by ukman
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To: gopwinsin04
Multiple "life" sentences is pure farce. Give him 10,000 life sentences. Give him a google plex. He's still fouling up this earth with his breathing and dreaming evil dreams.
122 posted on 08/19/2005 6:57:07 AM PDT by DManA
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To: BigTex5

I agree. I think those century long sentences were meant to signal, to those in charge in years to come, no possibility of parole. He's one clear case for the death penalty. And he's a danger to those around him, inmate and guard. Inmates will want to do him in, but he won't go down easily, he's already playing mind games with the court per the article. He's a very dangerous sociopath bent on evil and he thinks he's got the upper hand, regardless of those around him.


123 posted on 08/19/2005 7:00:19 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: gopwinsin04
He also told the judge he was honest and cooperated with police after his arrest, then said 'he blew so much smoke' in telling his story that 'nobody knows fact from fiction.'

I agree. He is a dangerous sociopath and evil. He is a danger to all around him. He's 'playing' everyone around him, even now.

Per the article:

Instead of asking forgiveness or a lenient sentence, Rader rambled off details about his series of murders. In a bizarre moment of triumph, he ran through a list of people he wanted to think. He also told the judge he was honest and cooperated with police after his arrest, then said 'he blew so much smoke' in telling his story that 'nobody knows fact from fiction.'

He is a sociopath and it seems he feels as though he's still playing the game, and he's winning, in that he was caught because he wanted to be caught.

"No remorse, no compassion — he had no mercy,"

Let's hope he's headed for maximum security for the safety of those around him, inmates and guards. He's still playing the game, just a new playing field. He makes Gacy and Bundy seem almost normal.

Moriarty reports that Rader may never be able to speak directly to the public again. The District Attorney has asked that he not even be allowed a pen or pencil in prison.

Let's hope this comes to pass. He is a clear cut case in support of the death penalty. He seems poised, per his comments, to start manipulating those around him in his new home.

124 posted on 08/19/2005 7:15:21 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: jw777
he will be forgiven by god, if he is sincere, but i saw a braggard today.

So did I.

125 posted on 08/19/2005 7:27:59 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: fatnotlazy
how do we know that maybe in a couple of years some doofus judge will put him back on the streets?

If I where a victim's family member I would track him down and KILL him! I don't think there would be a jury in this country that would convict me of his death.

126 posted on 08/19/2005 7:34:20 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: ukman
And why hurry sending him on to final judgement? That really is for keeps.

Given the costs involved in the endless appeals for death row inmates in this country it's been proven that it is more cost effective to lock someone up for life than it is to execute him. In my opinion, the only possible benefit to execution is if the family of the victim gains some closure in having the life of the person who took their loved one's life ended as well. Other than that, I'd just as soon lock them up in a tiny cell and let them rot for decades to come.

I don't think any lawyer anywhere could make any kind of case for letting this bloke out.

There wasn't a trial so there will be no appeal. Rader pled out to all the murders. I don't know what he was hoping to gain by doing that, but whatever it was it didn't work. He received the longest punishment that the judge was allowed to hand down.

127 posted on 08/19/2005 7:43:46 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BigTex5

Multiple life sentences mock the victims who had their one and only life stolen.


128 posted on 08/19/2005 7:56:05 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Iron Matron

I know he deserves worse than death but he should be tried by the laws during the crime. Otherwise the government could make new laws and you could be tried for something that was legal at the time.


129 posted on 08/19/2005 8:30:09 AM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: fortunecookie

"Inmates will want to do him in, but he won't go down easily, he's already playing mind games with the court per the article. He's a very dangerous sociopath bent on evil and he thinks he's got the upper hand, regardless of those around him."

Right up until the moment they shiv him.


130 posted on 08/19/2005 9:18:39 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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To: GAB-1955

I'm actually hoping that he is either in max security/ solitary with well informed guards or that he meets the shiv. He is just that dangerous. I think he enjoyed, in his sick, twisted freak, sociopath way, the comments of the victims and survivors. It's a game to him, he was caught, at least in his mind, because he wanted it, and he's still clearly enjoying the game. I hope the prison is ready for him. He's playing everyone, but at least he's no longer free and his family can try to move on.


131 posted on 08/19/2005 9:21:54 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: varyouga
Otherwise the government could make new laws and you could be tried for something that was legal at the time.

Oh, well, that makes perfect sense. Hoping he'll not get a cell with no television and no internet access..no paper or pen..maybe a cot without blankets in a cell without lights..but that would be cruel and unusual.

132 posted on 08/19/2005 9:48:54 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: gopwinsin04
No way he makes it 5 years in the general prision population. Ask Jeffrey Dahmer about that one...

Did they kill dahmer in prison? (he asked hopefully)

133 posted on 08/19/2005 10:55:22 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

Here's a little trivia for that P O S Rader. Basing this on the assumption that ten consecutive life sentences equate to 175 years, this is what that prick has to look foreward to:

Duration calculation results
From and including: Thursday, August 18, 2005
To, but not including : Friday, August 18, 2180

It is 63,918 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date

Or 175 years excluding the end date

Alternative time units
63,918 days can be converted to one of these units:
5,522,515,200 seconds
92,041,920 minutes
1,534,032 hours
9,131 weeks (rounded down)

Now, knowing this, that P O S can now start his countdown clock. Although, I personally believe that he won't live but a year or two. He will be offed in an "arranged" meeting with someone serving a lif w/o parole sentence himself. Enjoy your stay Rader. Time's ticking.


134 posted on 08/19/2005 12:26:44 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: jw777
he will be forgiven by god, if he is sincere,

Then god is a fool.

135 posted on 08/19/2005 2:11:59 PM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: beavus

bravley spoken.


136 posted on 08/19/2005 2:52:48 PM PDT by jw777
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To: gopwinsin04
those offenders would be 'cast out to sea with millstones around their necks.'

Actually, He said that "it would be better for them if a millstone were placed around their necks and that they were then thrown into the sea".

Better, that is, than what their Father God has in store for them, for eternity.

137 posted on 08/19/2005 3:00:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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To: jw777
he will be forgiven by God, if he is sincere

Yes, His forgiveness is bigger than any sin. This one will have some time to explore it, if he chooses.

138 posted on 08/19/2005 6:59:55 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: cripplecreek
I suspect his death will come at the hands of his fellow inmates.

I agree. I just hope its painfull and slow
139 posted on 08/19/2005 7:04:27 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant (Yes I am still not paying any attention to the Red Sox bullpen woes.)
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To: RushCrush
What will happen to him in prison? Will he get solitary or will he be with general prison population?

I would hope that he is provided an isolated padded cell not bigger that 6x6 that is equipped with a cot, toilet and a dull paring knife.........

140 posted on 08/19/2005 7:08:59 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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