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1 posted on 08/18/2005 8:39:28 AM PDT by against_kerry
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Ya see,
it's all about looks...
he had long hair and wore sandals
(OK, granted that this was what everyone ELSE wore during the time is overlooked).


27 posted on 08/18/2005 8:51:22 AM PDT by najida (I hate Maytag. I hate Equifax. I hate Hewlett-Packard. I'm just one big ole ball of hate >:>)
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To: against_kerry
I've had it out with this woman before. Jesus most CERTAINLY would NOT vote Democrat.

First, the entire pattern of the Bible, of God's plan, is for wealth to be transferred from the OLDER to the YOUNGER, from grandparents to parents to children. It is NEVER to be from the younger to the older. Therefore, Jesus would opposed Social Security and the New Deal.

Second, the Law, which Jesus Himself said He came to fulfill, is chocked full of references to property rights, to the point that it is an "abomination" to even falsely set scales so as to cheat someone out of his profits or out of the fruit of his labor. Jesus would not support any party that thumbed its nose at property rights.

Third, Jesus supported national defense. As a young man---a carpenter in Nazareth---Jesus and his father Joseph worked for the leading employer in that GARRISON TOWN, namely the ROMAN ARMY. Do you really think that He made coffee tables all day? No! Jesus, when not doing civilian work, like all carpenters worked for the military building forts, siege equipment, and (I betcha) a few crosses. (Indeed, God works in perfect cycles, and I would not be at all surprised if the crossbar to which Jesus was nailed at age 33 was one He Himself built back in Nazareth as a younger man). Paul, further, explained the reason that it is written, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, VENGEANCE IS MINE saith the Lord," yet we soon see numerous instructions by God for the conditions of capital punishment. This whole verse is constantly misunderstood: God does not want vendettas. He wants the government, "God's ministers," as Paul calls leaders, to carry out policies, not individuals. When society does it, it is just, and orderly. That's why Paul says "the state does not wield the sword in vain, but to . . . execute wrath." Governments must defend societies SO THAT INDIVIDUALS DON'T HAVE TO engage in vendettas! No one ran off to Afghanistan to kill Muslims after 9/11 because we knew our government would respond. Notice that Paul says that the government's job is not even to "execute JUSTICE," but to "execute wrath." In other words, to get even so that individuals feel like they have been avenged.

Fourth, Jesus did not oppose legally-acquired wealth. The Bible says that "GOD gives you the power to acquire wealth." Well, why would He give you the power if He didn't expect you to use it? Jesus had a "trust fund" from the time He was a young child (the wise men's gold); He spent little of His wages for some 17 years; and many of His disciples (John, James, Peter, Matthew) were quite well off. (Matthew's house was so big the Bible says he invited the whole city to his party for Jesus.

Finally, Jesus would never vote for a party that condones the killing of babies or which encourages men to lie with men. That's a no-brainer.

28 posted on 08/18/2005 8:51:30 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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I thought liberals didn't believe in God?


29 posted on 08/18/2005 8:51:37 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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"Jesus taught love, tolerance, forgiveness, charity and humility."

Tolerance of sin? He loved sinners but he said "Go forth and sin no more".

Democrats celebrate their sins with Gay Pride parades. Perversity on display.

Jesus loved His enemies. Democrats demonize their domestic political opponents in the most off color and violent fanged language.

How does aborting a baby represent anything Jesus said or did? The "right" to abortion is of utmost importance to the left.

It isn't charity when the government takes your money under penalty of law. When you freely give with no pressure to do so, that is charity.

Is the criminal serving his community service time a better citizen than the straight arrow citizen who goes to his job, earns his paycheck, pays his taxes, and raises his family?

30 posted on 08/18/2005 8:51:50 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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Is this a Liberal or a Conservative message? "There is such a thing as Sin. You're sinning, so knock it off. Hit the road, and don't repeat your sinning ways."

You decide.


31 posted on 08/18/2005 8:52:55 AM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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Why did you post this twice? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465874/posts
37 posted on 08/18/2005 8:55:54 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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Here is another liberal for you. Hitler was a liberal too He was for Gun Control, high taxes, abortion and he was even a vegetarian and animal lover
42 posted on 08/18/2005 9:00:13 AM PDT by DM1
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I also take issue with the headline.

I ALWAYS vote democratic(ally) for Republicans.

There is no Democratic party any more than there is a Republic party.


49 posted on 08/18/2005 9:03:57 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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"Love your creator, love yourself, love your neighbor as yourself."

Dear Reverend: Most conservatives would agree with you, however, the devil is afoot about the planet and his minions will not be appeased with "love". The "Almighty" Himself, has had to flood the entire planet and destroy two ancient cities to rid the world of sin. For the time being, mankind will need to understand that the United States is Noahs Ark until a peaceful world can be restored.

50 posted on 08/18/2005 9:04:11 AM PDT by elbucko
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They always try to take credit for Jesus. Dangerous game, to try to say what God is for or against.

Seems to me that Jesus said: "Thou Hypocrite, take the beam out of thine own eye so that thou can see clearly to help thy neighbor remove the mote from his own." and "If thine eye offends, pluck it out. Better to go through life with one eye than for the entire body to go through eternity in hell."

Jesus was not all sweetness and light, as we know, but they conveniently write out of the NT in order to gain approval for all their mortal sins. At least when I do wrong I admit it, I hope, except when I fool myself.


52 posted on 08/18/2005 9:04:53 AM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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Jesus taught love, tolerance, forgiveness, charity and humility.

Love? Like love for life? Love for children? Even unborn ones?

Tolerance? Like the tolerance for all religions EXCEPT Judaism and Christianity? ACLU comes to mind.

Forgiveness? The kind of forgiveness extended to Trent Lott after he apologized?

Charity? Taxing the rich to give to the "poor"?

Humility? Like the humility displayed by party leader Howard Dean? Calling Republicans all manner of names and such?

Yes, Jesus displayed these characteristics, however, the majority of dimocractic leaders and followers discourage such behavior and mock those who do follow Jesus.

Hypocrite is not a strong enough word for this guy.
53 posted on 08/18/2005 9:05:12 AM PDT by texan75010
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Somehow, Democrats let others define them as elitist snobs.

Somehow??? They have done a fine job of defining themselves as elitist snobs by the hypocrisy they live out in public and private, everyday.

60 posted on 08/18/2005 9:09:44 AM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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Would Jesus have voted democrat when the northern democrats were undermining the Republican's efforts to end slavery?


65 posted on 08/18/2005 9:21:37 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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No way Jesus was a left winger, my tag line is right out of the Bible.


67 posted on 08/18/2005 9:24:24 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Preposterous.

Jesus is a royalist.

68 posted on 08/18/2005 9:24:37 AM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to post it...why not me?)
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Why would Jesus vote for those who took the Ten Commandments out of our courts. Why would he vote for those who took parer out of school. Why would he vote for those that say that his father did not create the universe? Why would he vote for those that kill his children by abortion? Why would he vote?
69 posted on 08/18/2005 9:25:01 AM PDT by mountainlyons (alienated vet)
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Yes, of course. Because Jesus was Pro-Abortion, right?


70 posted on 08/18/2005 9:25:41 AM PDT by sandbar
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Jesus was as intolerant as can be, especially in matters of religion. He is the narrow gate to salvation. We may only know His Father through Him. That can't be any more exclusive.

Whacking babies in the womb and people who are sick and people who are old is definitely not what I'd call Christian.

Paul was a tent-maker, and in his letters he would admonish people tempted to wait for the second coming to basically 'get a job'. In one of His parables he talks about the three servents who are given a number of talents and the responsibility for administrating them. I don't think Jesus was anti-profit, though I do think he was anti-exploitation of the poor.

These people are funny. As long as the unfettered slaughter of innocents is a constitutionally guaranteed right, they'll have a tough time selling this to the Red States.


71 posted on 08/18/2005 9:33:53 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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Jesus would vote Democratic

Uh huh.


72 posted on 08/18/2005 9:43:36 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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liberals support changes that increase personal freedom

Except for the second amendment, fifth amendment, first amendment, smoking, fishing, hunting, praying, seatbelts, etc....
74 posted on 08/18/2005 9:47:31 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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