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Victor Davis Hanson: Let them be?
Jewish World Review ^ | 8-18-05 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/18/2005 5:51:26 AM PDT by SJackson

"I supported the war, but not the aftermath" is a commonplace lament about Afghanistan and Iraq. But dealing with terrorists and fanatics is never easy. We can attest to that by looking at hotspots — Gaza, Iran and North Korea — where the United States has let others handle the mess.

Indeed, we have been given a rare chance across the globe to evaluate radically different paths: Is it best to let others handle terrorists and rogue states through diplomacy and conciliation, or is American proactive intervention to prompt democracy in the place of tyranny the wiser course of action?

There has been plenty of angry discussion over the U.S.'s efforts and approaches in Afghanistan and Iraq, but let's take a closer look at the situations unfolding in Gaza, Iran and North Korea.

In Gaza, the Palestinians are getting their wish of independence. Either an autonomous and lawful state will follow — or something akin to Tombstone, where Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Palestine Authority shoot it out and brag about expelling the Jews.

Either way, the choice is now in the hands of various Palestinian factions, as the U.S. has given up on Oslo-like prodding. The Palestinians can show the world that a free Gaza is a blueprint for a stable West Bank. Or their behavior will reflect that the Israelis were simply an excuse that diverted attention from a time-honored chaos of tribalism, corruption, religious fanaticism and intolerance.

In the meantime, ponder this recent pronouncement of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed wing of the Palestinian-ruling Fatah movement, about the recent voluntary withdrawal of Israelis from Gaza. "Palestine is not Gaza only, but rather, Palestine is Palestine from the River (Jordan River) to the Sea (Mediterranean Sea)."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: israel; vdh; victordavishanson

1 posted on 08/18/2005 5:51:26 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Tolik

"nailed it!" ping


2 posted on 08/18/2005 5:53:48 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.


3 posted on 08/18/2005 6:03:51 AM PDT by SJackson (I went to the intifada, and all I got was a UN T-Shirt, Hugh Hewitt)
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To: SJackson

BTTT


4 posted on 08/18/2005 6:21:53 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: SJackson

"Palestinians can show the world that a free Gaza is a blueprint for a stable West Bank. Or their behavior will reflect that the Israelis were simply an excuse that diverted attention from a time-honored chaos of tribalism, corruption, religious fanaticism and intolerance."

If I was a betting man I'd put my money on the later, but that's a sucker bet.


5 posted on 08/18/2005 6:42:23 AM PDT by txroadhawg (Don't believe any statistics unless you made them up yourself)
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To: txroadhawg
Or their behavior will reflect that the Israelis were simply an excuse that diverted attention from a time-honored chaos of tribalism, corruption, religious fanaticism and intolerance."

If I was a betting man I'd put my money on the later, but that's a sucker bet.

Which begs the question about Iraq. However, we need to prove to ourselves that the ME is irredeemable before we move to stage 2: mobilization & occupation.

Poor Bush; he's the one who will be tagged with going in too weak, but what was he to do? He didn't have the support of a larger effort.

It will probably take a Dem to really gin up war fever and get us where we need to be. They'll ditch their anti-war rhetoric mighty fast when they see that 1/3 of Americans want to do this job the right way.

6 posted on 08/18/2005 6:48:16 AM PDT by lemura
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To: SJackson; neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out

7 posted on 08/18/2005 8:29:53 PM PDT by Tolik
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To: King Prout

Thanks for the ping


8 posted on 08/18/2005 8:31:20 PM PDT by Tolik
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To: SJackson

Probably more like the Mogadishu, Somalia of Black Hawk Down, or the Mexico/New Mexico border area during the uprisings and violence of the Pancho Villa era than of Tombstone.


9 posted on 08/18/2005 8:38:00 PM PDT by bvw
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To: All

"Palestine is not Gaza only, but rather, Palestine is Palestine from the River (Jordan River) to the Sea (Mediterranean Sea)."

The elephant in the room that no-one seems willing to acknowledge.


10 posted on 08/18/2005 8:44:20 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

And this from the "moderate" member of the terroristas.


11 posted on 08/18/2005 9:06:50 PM PDT by dervish (tagline for rent, inquire within)
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To: Tolik; King Prout; SJackson
For now, I doubt whether Palestinians, Iranians and North Koreans will be pacified by the deference of others. Sooner or later they may well have their own rendezvous with the quiet Americans now in the shadows.

Sooner rather than later is OK by me and IMO the correct course.
Appeasement just doesn't make it with these folks.

12 posted on 08/19/2005 3:13:35 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: SJackson

Blam. Rock on, VDH, rock on.


13 posted on 08/19/2005 1:03:19 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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