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Gay Teacher Question for Freepers (Vanity)
None | 8/17/05 | Dr._Joseph_Warren

Posted on 08/17/2005 7:58:48 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren

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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

As long as it's not something that's mentioned by the teacher to the students in any way, shape or form, I would have no problem with it.


381 posted on 08/17/2005 11:28:53 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: DBeers
as usual -here we are AGAIN on a homosexual thread

And your point is? It takes two to tango. Just because I enjoy pointing out the logical shortcomings of FR homophobes does not mean that I am in any way a supporter of the so-called homosexual agenda.

if you are now against the homosexual agenda THAT would be unsual.

What leads you to conclude that I have any feelings about the so-called "homosexual agenda?"

The 'evidence' in confrimation is your posting to me -duh...

No, it isn't. You didn't do too well in logic, did you?

382 posted on 08/17/2005 11:29:12 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Phantom Lord

The government being entirely removed from education is exactly what I'm advocating.


383 posted on 08/17/2005 11:29:32 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: scripter
"Why don't you contact People Can Change and ask them?"

Because I REALLY don't want to be on their mailing list.

"What you call bogus Dr. Spitzer considered quite compelling. Compelling enough to completely change his mind that gays can go straight. And considering who Dr. Robert Spitzer is, what he's done for the homosexual community and the backlash he as received for this study, that's quite a reversal."

Did you read the abstract of this study? The design is totally flawed. Were you as supportive of him when he lead the fight to reclassify homosexual behavior as non-deviant (a view I'm sure he still maintains) or is he now your hero because he has concocted a study that supports your viewpoint?
384 posted on 08/17/2005 11:30:59 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: scripter
What you call bogus Dr. Spitzer considered quite compelling.

He's entitled to his opinion. However, anyone who understands how studies such as this need to be performed, knows that a self-selecting study is in no way persuasive.

385 posted on 08/17/2005 11:31:51 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: ClearCase_guy
That kind of talk does not belong in school.

I agree. No teacher, whether gay or not, should be talking about their sexuality in the classroom. It is not appropriate.

386 posted on 08/17/2005 11:32:09 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: wequalswinner

Maybe we can just go ahead and end this endless disagreement and discussion by saying let's all support the President and the troops in Iraq and the WOT, last I heard the islamofascists give someone "convicted" of homosexual behavior get a choice of punishment a)buried alive or b)have a building collapsed down on you. Maybe this is also someone's fantasy too, but whatever the punishment is under their system, it isn't tolerant.

What do ya'll think about Drew Bledsoe playing for the Cowboys? (Can we change the subject, its so gay)


387 posted on 08/17/2005 11:33:07 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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To: Modernman

What the hell is the "homosexual agenda" anyways? You seem rational, please explain it to me.

I'm not sure if support the "homosexual agenda". I think the government has no business defining a marriage, nor do they have any business regulating people's sex lives. I am, however, against hate crime laws, as I think they are just more pointless legislature. Are there any other parts to the "homosexual agenda"?


388 posted on 08/17/2005 11:35:01 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

I would only care if the teacher were interested sexually in the children in his/her care. Same goes for heterosexual teachers. I would probably be leery of a male homosexual teacher at the elementary level.


389 posted on 08/17/2005 11:35:36 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: sofaman

What part of the words "it is my BELIEF" didn't you understand. I was not unequivocally stating it as fact.
I simply don't believe your stretch of the imagination from taking your own experience of having no undue influence until college and extrapolating that to mean that it must not exist because YOU haven't experienced it.

I don't need to rethink my statement, because it is a belief, just as I believe that homosexuality is a deviancy and I BELIEVE deviant tendancies cannot be turned off and on like a faucet.

The LA LA land comment was given primarily in disbelief that you had NEVER experience ANY social, political, or orientation influence from a teacher until college. From my experience, the only place where that could happen IS in LA LA land or possibly in a home-schooled situation.


390 posted on 08/17/2005 11:35:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

Yes
No
Yes

Deviance is deviance. I don't want deviants instructing children, period. I don't want my tax dollars going to pay them to do that.
Either by example- or outward proselytizing- homosexuals are trying to make the abnormal normal. If it's something like homosexuality-which is a either a psycholical or biological aberration- I don't want the 'but' factor helping to do that.
" He is attracted to men not women-BUT- he's a nice guy who tells jokes and loves his mother."
" She hates her femaleness, wants to be a man, dresses and acts like one- BUT- she gives to charity and makes French easy."
" She/He was born one sex, dresses as another and wants to be treated that way- BUT- they can give you advice on makeup as well as coach the basketball team."
What you ARE in private DOES come across in your public dealings- and how many homosexuals keep their lifestyles private?

Petting dogs did not make Adolph Hitler kind, nor did not eating all of his family make Jeffery Dahmer a normal person. Being able to function, daily, on a normal level does not negate the disorder- and the disorder, IMO, colors every aspect of the personality in some way.

IMO homosexuality is a disorder. It exists outside the biological norm. Being born a man who thinks he's a woman is- IMO again- NO different than being born a short blond who thinks he's Abraham Lincoln, or the Easter Bunny, or anything else he is not.
Anyone whose basic humanity is that aberrant should have NOTHING whatever to do with children. Just as I wouldn't want a delusional person with a self-identity problem teaching children, I do not want homosexuals.
And I am consistent. I don't want Catholic priests who are homosexuals counseling or ministering to children either. I don't even want homosexuals to be in the clergy at all.

And YES- I have known MANY, MANY homosexuals. I grew up right outside the French Quarter. I worked in the Vieux Carre for years, and homosexuals were daily customers in my shop. I have seen it all- and it has reinforced all of my views. For the record- I'm a middle-aged, white female.


391 posted on 08/17/2005 11:36:02 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Whoops- It's YES, NO, NO.


392 posted on 08/17/2005 11:37:59 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

It depends on what part of the country it is...


393 posted on 08/17/2005 11:38:26 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Amen brother! BTTT


394 posted on 08/17/2005 11:39:02 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian; scripter
What the hell is the "homosexual agenda" anyways?

It's been described to me before, but I don't really remember it. You might want to ask someone like scripter.

I think the government has no business defining a marriage, nor do they have any business regulating people's sex lives. I am, however, against hate crime laws, as I think they are just more pointless legislature. Are there any other parts to the "homosexual agenda"?

We're more or less on the same page, though I might disgree when it comes to hate crimes.

I don't know how any of that falls under the gay agenda, if at all.

What you have to realize, is that many Freepers are not actually opposed to intrusive big government. They just want such intrusive big government to do their bidding.

395 posted on 08/17/2005 11:39:27 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

Yes, no, no.


396 posted on 08/17/2005 11:40:19 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: ClearBlueSky

BTW notice how the questions are set up to be misleading

A Y/n/n
couple with the N/N/N or N/Y/Y can be mixed and matched to misrepresent results.


397 posted on 08/17/2005 11:40:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: LIConFem
Ditto that. If a teacher (of any stripe) leaves his/her private life at home, no problem.

Seems to me that being "openly gay" would bring their private life to class.....

398 posted on 08/17/2005 11:41:16 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I agree BUMP!


399 posted on 08/17/2005 11:43:17 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted!!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I noticed.
They can try the 'we're just like everyone else' on someone who doesn't know better. They don't call hets ' straight' for nothing- homosexuals are 'bent',to some degree, in all aspects of their personalities.
I knew a few I liked very much- superficially, as people to chat and lunch with- in the Quarter. They ran the gamut- from straight-looking, you'd-never-know males, to drag queens. Some were more obviously 'broken' than others, but the deviancy was the common denominator- and it ALWAYS came down to that.


400 posted on 08/17/2005 11:47:43 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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