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To: narby

So why then are fruitflies still fruitflies? Evolutionists need to prove that macro-evolution happens by replicating it in the lab with a short-lived organism, not demand that someone else prove that it cannot happen.


162 posted on 08/17/2005 5:27:16 PM PDT by Buggman (Baruch ata Adonai Elohanu, Mehlech ha Olam, asher nathan lanu et derech ha y’shua b’Mashiach Yeshua.)
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To: Buggman
Evolutionists need to prove that macro-evolution happens by replicating it in the lab with a short-lived organism, not demand that someone else prove that it cannot happen.

You're missing my point.

The current limitation on studying evolution is merely time. We haven't had enough of it. And if species change happened any faster than we've observed, then it would falsify current evolution theory because it happened too fast.

You admit evolution happens, but claim that it has limits. Ok. Demonstrate that evolution is self limiting.

That's a perfectly good hypothesis. Perhaps derived from religious belief, but whatever. It's a hypothesis.

So now you need to find out *why* evolution is limited. What is the DNA functionality that enables it.

This is the perfect opportunity for the Discovery Institute to step up to the plate. Put their money where their mouth is and do some real research (they won't, I think because creationists have been burned by failed research in the past and deep inside they know they're wrong).

163 posted on 08/17/2005 5:39:11 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: Buggman
By the way Buggy, fruit flies are not always fruit flies. This link claims that 5 bonafide species of fruit fly have been laboratory evolved. It also has other references to speciation found in nature in several different plants and animals.

I'm sure you will find some reason to reject this. Faith can make one blind.

By the way, a few paragraphs down it has some very good points agains Noahs flood story. Mainly that there would not have been a viable population of most of the species to have survived afterward. The post claims that species generally go extinct if they have less than 20 individuals, even with extreem help from humans. The most the Bible claims is 7 ea (or 2ea, depending on which verse). Also the human population would have been too small to have replaced itself by now. And there are no other contemporaneous recordings of the flood in Egyptian, Indus, or Chineese civilizations, which existed and had written histories at the time.

165 posted on 08/17/2005 6:02:13 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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