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To: Buggman
By the way Buggy, fruit flies are not always fruit flies. This link claims that 5 bonafide species of fruit fly have been laboratory evolved. It also has other references to speciation found in nature in several different plants and animals.

I'm sure you will find some reason to reject this. Faith can make one blind.

By the way, a few paragraphs down it has some very good points agains Noahs flood story. Mainly that there would not have been a viable population of most of the species to have survived afterward. The post claims that species generally go extinct if they have less than 20 individuals, even with extreem help from humans. The most the Bible claims is 7 ea (or 2ea, depending on which verse). Also the human population would have been too small to have replaced itself by now. And there are no other contemporaneous recordings of the flood in Egyptian, Indus, or Chineese civilizations, which existed and had written histories at the time.

165 posted on 08/17/2005 6:02:13 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: narby
Your link is suspiciously empty of data that would allow one to verify the claim. I'd want to see the peer-reviewed article, which would include the structural differences between these five "species." Did any of these "speciated" fruit flies develop new and useful organs? for example. Or are we merely looking at minor differences in size and coloration?

If the structural differences were no greater than what we can acheive by breeding dogs, then I'd say that the claim that this proves macro-evolution is a bit overblown. Of course, evolution, the creation story of secular humanism, is full of overblown statements and stretched (or fabricated) evidence, so that would hardly be a surprise to those of us who dare to look at it a little bit critically.

179 posted on 08/18/2005 8:48:46 AM PDT by Buggman (Baruch ata Adonai Elohanu, Mehlech ha Olam, asher nathan lanu et derech ha y’shua b’Mashiach Yeshua.)
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