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--> The Cult of Evolution – the Opiate of the Atheists
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Posted on 08/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by woodb01

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To: GSHastings
And the mistake you are making, is assuming that people who believe in God do not "understand" science.

And the mistake you are making is assuming you know what you are talking about. I never said anything like that. Lots of poeple that believe in God understand science. It's just the whacko creos that are lost.

641 posted on 08/17/2005 4:33:56 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: woodb01

"Think of it like this, evolution believe that if you have a deck of 52 cards and two jokers, and then shuffle the deck thoroughly, and throw the entire deck up in the air as high as you can, that eventually all of the cards will land, in perfect order, and perfectly aligned."

Hmmm. That probability is the same as the probablility for anyother.


"The probability of this even happening one time in a billion years approaches zero."

Ah, a typical sentence penned by one intent on misleading the ignorant. Pure garbage.


642 posted on 08/17/2005 4:40:31 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Demanding that evolution explain the origin of life is willful ignorance

Demanding that "Evolution-The Origin of Species" explain the origin of the first species along with all the rest, seems pretty reasonable to me.

That most evolutionists like to get off on a rant about the difference between abiogenesis and evolution, is nothing but a feeble diversion from the discussion. They believe that life originated by the chance combination of events, just like they believe that species evolve. But for some reason, it's like how liberals in general don't like to be labeled as liberals.

643 posted on 08/17/2005 4:52:45 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: DaveTesla
FPGA are one of the things I design.

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Your article (post 400) is complete bunko.....

If I were you I would refrain from using it in the future since even the first sentence is in error.

I'm not sure this message was intended for me. I didn't post the article in #400. (although I did respond to it).

If it is intended for me, then I guess I'm confuseled.

644 posted on 08/17/2005 5:01:24 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: WildTurkey
Hmmm. That probability is the same as the probablility for any other.

True enough. But only that order of cards results in life(in this analogy), and all other possible orderings result in nothing useful at all.

Therefore, chance of life = extreeeeeemly small.

Chance of something else = virtually 100%

645 posted on 08/17/2005 5:11:22 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: VadeRetro

Okay, I'll bite. No person who buys into intelligent design dares to face what challenge?

What about the Cambrian explosion?


646 posted on 08/17/2005 5:13:12 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: GSHastings

"Demanding that "Evolution-The Origin of Species" explain the origin of the first species along with all the rest, seems pretty reasonable to me."

I'm sure it would, to you. If you had read that book you would know better.


647 posted on 08/17/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: WildTurkey
And the mistake you are making is assuming you know what you are talking about.

And the mistake you are making is assuming that I assume that I know what I'm taking about. When in fact I assume that I assume that you know what I'm talking about. And if you assume something different, then I assume that you assume that I assume something else. I think.

648 posted on 08/17/2005 5:16:26 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: bobdsmith

here is a list of more fossils that would totally not fit evolution:

-A dog fossil with rockets morphed into its legs.-A fossil shark with lasers attached
-A fossil crocodile with an outboard motor
-A lion with wings of a bird

-A centaur
-A werewolf
-A human fossil in the cambrian

-An elephant fossil in the cambrian
-Any mammal fossil in the cambrian
-or bird in the cambrian.




Hey now, but WAIT A MINUTE, according to evolution, between both Natural Selection and enough "accidents" we just MIGHT have all these fossils in a few more billion years!! Yep, om feelin' u lot betr bout ebolushun aredy..!! yea!


649 posted on 08/17/2005 5:17:12 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: GSHastings
But only that order of cards results in life(in this analogy), and all other possible orderings result in nothing useful at all.

False. Unless you consider that trees and humans have the same genes ...

650 posted on 08/17/2005 5:21:22 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: GSHastings
Therefore, chance of life = extreeeeeemly small.

Chance of something else = virtually 100%


This only works if you assume a single specific possible result to allow for life.
651 posted on 08/17/2005 5:30:55 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: csense
"just as populations don't have physical traits"

Ever been to Africa? Try selling sunscreen next time you're there

652 posted on 08/17/2005 5:33:31 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: woodb01
Hey now, but WAIT A MINUTE, according to evolution, between both Natural Selection and enough "accidents" we just MIGHT have all these fossils in a few more billion years!!

No. Definitely not.

Anyhow this is called changing the subject. I listed fossils that can't exist under evolution. Fossils that would represent past life. Nothing about future life.

-A dog fossil with rockets morphed into its legs.-A fossil shark with lasers attached
-A fossil crocodile with an outboard motor
-A lion with wings of a bird

-A centaur
-A werewolf
-A human fossil in the cambrian

-An elephant fossil in the cambrian
-Any mammal fossil in the cambrian
-or bird in the cambrian.

I'll throw in another: A whale with two heads.

None of these things would fit evolution. All of them would fit Intelligent Design. There isn't a single theoretical fossil that would not fit Intelligent Design. Both the most simplest, and the most ludicrously complex fossil would fit Intelligent Design equally.

653 posted on 08/17/2005 5:55:18 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I was joking of course, but . . . good answer.
654 posted on 08/17/2005 6:06:50 PM PDT by YHAOS (Western morons are more dangerous than Islamic lunatics)
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To: csense

People have answered your question and each time you disagree with the answer and complain noone is getting what you mean. I suggest you figure out a way of making your question clearer.


655 posted on 08/17/2005 6:10:06 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: YHAOS

"I was joking of course, but . . . good answer."

I'm not sure which post you are referencing, but that would be consistent with my not getting the joke too :) I never said I wasn't slow, just that I get there eventually :)


656 posted on 08/17/2005 6:17:44 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Dimensio
This only works if you assume a single specific possible result to allow for life

Since a few hundred years has failed to explain or create even a "single specific" result of life, is there some good reason to asume there are more?

657 posted on 08/17/2005 6:44:09 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings
You posted...
"Can you show me ONE complex thing that you can PROVE originated by an evolutionary process?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464498/posts?page=387#387

bobdsmith posted this in response to your question..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464498/posts?page=400#400

I answered his response to you here...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464498/posts?page=504#504

I pinged you because his reply to your question is a complete load of bunk.....
(it is proof of nothing but the author of this FPGA claim is clueless.)

FrRegards;
DaveTesla
658 posted on 08/17/2005 6:48:00 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: WildTurkey
But only that order of cards results in life(in this analogy), and all other possible orderings result in nothing useful at all.

"False. Unless you consider that trees and humans have the same genes ..."

Oh, that's right. I forgot for a moment there. Evolution assumes that the impossible happened not just once, not just twice, but countless times. Good point :-)

659 posted on 08/17/2005 6:48:44 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: bobdsmith
A dog fossil with rockets morphed into its legs.

As far as I know this does not fit any scientific, theological, or known model for the universe as we know it. It does, however, appeal to human imagination.

660 posted on 08/17/2005 6:55:36 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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