[Chi-townChief]

Once again, sorry for the vanity.

[mabelkitty]

I would have walked out and not given any money.

[prairiebreeze]

Welcome to the world of politics in church. I've left two mainstream denominations over these sorts of tactics and leftist based thinking. It's sad, I'm sorry it happened to you. But I simply won't tolerate it.

Maybe You can become vocal, find supporters, and challenge the pastor on his stance. Also let the church council know of your displeasure and how it may effect your attendance, and contributions (personal and financial) if it continues.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

A more appropriate homily regarding Cindy Sheehan would be the one about turning water (and everything else) into WHINE.

[AmishDude]

I remember when there were Palestinians were in the Church of the Nativity and there was talk that the Israeli army would storm in. This would violate the concept of sanctuary enshrined in hundreds of years of (European Christian) tradition.

Well the pastor mentioned this in his sermon. It was only a sentence and most of the congregation wouldn't have caught it. But I knew that the Palestinians (a) had guns [a no-no with respect to sanctuary] and (b) shot the locks off the doors.

Now, it didn't help that the spokesman for the order (in contradiction to some reports from the Vatican) said that they were offered sanctuary and there were other confusing signs. I think this was based on the Vatican's sympathy to the Palis.

Nonetheless, I just chalked it up to ignorance.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I walked out of church this morning also. My reasonw as because the pastor started talking about the Ken Blanchard seminar he attended this week. Is there any escaping the New Age influence inside the Christian church?

[dbwz]

How sad. You've just learned that religion and politics are inextricably entwined, no matter what the US Constitution says about separation of church and state.

Any institution that has the undivided attention and devotion of so many people will always be a target for political elements.

[Danae]

Isn't that the kind of crap they do in Islam?????

Good for you for walking out. Politics have no place in the church. If the Liberal freaks so want God out of the mainstream, then don't use his platform to preach your shortsighted politics.

[PMCarey]

I'm going to disagree with the group here and say that what you did was wrong. Based on your other post, you were at a Catholic Church and thus you turned your back not just on the pastor but also on the Holy Eucharist. Priests come and go and if you get a good one who speak sense from the pulpit, you are truly blessed; but Catholics don't - or shouldn't - go to Mass for the sermon alone.

You may want to rethink your membership in that community, but to leave in the middle of mass because of something said at the pulpit is disrepectful to everyone. If the pastor had spoken something heretical I would agree with you, but a homily containing something misguided and stupid is nothing new.

[U S Army EOD]

You did the right thing.

[mercy]

See, this is the big difference between you RCs and us Protestants. In a lot of Protestant churches .... half the congregation would have got up and walked out and then gone off and started a new church. ( / silliness )

[xsmommy]

ping.

[FreedomFarmer]

Mothers once stood before the assembled legions of The Republic, their very sons, and would proudly and publicly admonish the young warriors to come home "With your shield, or on it", and the priests would ask blessings on them, and tearfully beg release from their temple duties, so that they might join ranks and be counted a citizen, too...

[Ben Chad]

Did you have to restrain yourself from heckling the preacher? Should have kept the offering.

[Ramcat]

I know how you feel.
The only thing I can tell you is to pray for your pastor.
We had a similar situation with our pastor who would relate his sermons to something he'd read in the NYT or witnessed on the Today Show.
My wife and I made it a point to pray for him and for the last year of so his sermons are about Jesus, His works and His Word. Many others must have been praying as well.
Don't feel bad, I've been tempted to do what you did many times.

[Publius6961]

You're a lot more patient than I am.
I would not have agonized about the decision either.

I reject, on principle, getting political scoldings from who are, essentially, religious parasites.

If I wanted to homogenize my religious, political and cultural existence, I would become a muslim!

[Eastbound]

Remove the pastor. He's turned.

[ItsForTheChildren]

Food for thought - everyone have some, please:

Would you have walked out if the pastor's politics agreed with yours?

(That said, I don't know if I would have walked out but I certainly would have been pissed.)

[the invisib1e hand]

One of the beautiful things about Mass is that's all about Christ, not the homily.

anyway, think about it. strip away all the spin, and there really are some striking similarities; the timing is enough to make one at least reflect upon it. And if there's one thing that wisdom dictates, it's to reflect upon all facets of the story. There is something valid about a mother expressing grief and appealing to authority, when it's unspun.

I certainly don't agree with what is being portrayed of her motives and message but recall that she is simply a useful tool in the hands of the propagandizing left. It is instructive to consider, apart from that, what genuine grief she must be experiencing. Perhaps she's been egged on and encouraged to abandon propriety by her left wing handlers, who will be on to the next victim once they've ruined her life and broken her for good.

[MNJohnnie]

This is the first time something like this has happened in this church we have attended for the past twenty years or so and I feel pretty horrible about the whole thing.



There is a time when all must stand and be counted. I would be calling this "Pastor's" superiors and demanding that they council this person that their own political bigotry has nothing at all to do with their JOB. If it were me, I would be finding another church. The Hysteric Left count on the good breeding and basic decency of the Right in order to get away with what amounts to treason. Knowingly or not, this "pastor" is actively giving propaganda support to the Islamic Terrorists. That is fine, we have a 1st Amendment to protect morons like them, but the 1st Amendment does NOT require us to sit quietly, or provide the forum, for them to spew their Hate America First propaganda.

[Manic_Episode]

I would've inturrupted.