Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14

Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

[truthluva]

That's the only thing that bothers me about a lot of this. So much is unconfirmed. Like the ATM withdrawals...we've heard about 2 of them. But, where did that info come from? Who is giving out that kind of information? So much of what I have heard is not verifiable thru the internet...so far.

I really hope Dan's theory is right and that there is a way to get Natalee back home. I ain't giving up yet!

[monkeywrench]

Thank your son for us. Make sure he knows there are plenty of us that appreciate everything they do and stand for! And we're all very proud of them.

[truthluva]

Great recap. Thanks!!

[Rusty Roberts]

Excellent recap...of course a few things have changed, like the Aruba Mobathan is no longer on, etc.

Also, the thing about the VdS home being fully searched now would seem to be rather pointless...they've had months to take care of whatever was there those first few days. we've seen the damn vans.

I'm sure the arm is not Natalee, but why don't people (commentators) consider not that the current swept it there, but that Natalee might have been taken well out toward Venezuela and then dropped? She also might have been kept alive (rare, but possible) for a while, then any number of things...

Those phone calls are what get me. I really need verification on those two calls. If they happened as we think, then I'm more inclined to believe she was carted off somewhere, off island. Most likely killed once they realized the proportions of this case.

[stopem]

TexKat I know you are so proud of your Hero, your Son!
God Bless him, you, and your family.
And please send my gratitude to him for his service to our Country.

[theophilusscribe]

Well, let me give credit where credit is due . . . to whoever does this site: http://members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html

Lots of information there . . .

Rusty, I agree with you about her being taken somewhere. I am leaning that way more and more. If you find anything about the calls, please ping me. Thanks!

[Lucy Lake]

Since I'd never heard of "Zombie Dust," I checked out google ... not my caps :

"ZOMBIE DUST" KIDNAP/CRIME DRUG

1) (U)USE OF BURUNDANGA, KNOWN AS "ZOMBIE DUST", CONTINUES TO INCREASE THROUGHOUT CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA.
--
COLOMBIA MEDICAL OFFICIALS REPORT AN AVERAGE OF 1000 CASES OF EXPOSURE TO "ZOMBIE DUST" PER MONTH. ACTUAL INCIDENTS MAY BE HIGHER THAN REPORTS BASED ON HOSPITAL INTAKE RECORDS.
--
VICTIMS OF "ZOMBIE DUST" ARE RENDERED HELPLESS IN A TRANCE-LIKE STATE,
AWAKE AND COMMUNICATIVE, BUT POWERLESS TO RESIST ORDERS.

THE DRUG MAY CAUSE EXTREME DISORIENTATION, UNCONSCIOUSNESS AND SERIOUS MEDICAL PROBLEMS.

VICTIMS OFTEN DO NOT RECALL EVENTS.
--
"ZOMBIE DUST" IS SURREPTICIOUSLY ADMINISTERED IN DRINKS IN BARS,
CIGARETTES AND GUM IN TAXIS, IN FOOD AND IN POWDER FORM DUSTED ONTO
VICTIMS' SKIN.

HOUSEWIVES AND BUSINESSMEN HAVE REPORTED FALLING VICTIM
TO "ZOMBIE DUST" APPLIED BY CRIMINALS POSING AS DOOR-TO-DOOR SALESMEN
INVITING UNWARY SUBJECTS TO SAMPLE PERFUMES AND OTHER PRODUCTS WHICH
SECRETLY CONTAIN THE DRUG MIXED IN GASEOUS FORM.

VICTIMS HAVE ALSO REPORTED ATTACKERS APPROACHING THEM IN RESTROOMS AND BLOWING THE POWDER ONTO THEIR FACES.

PRECAUTIONS:

1. DO NOT LEAVE DRINKS UNATTENDED AND DRINK ONLY FROM BOTTLED
BEVERAGES.

(POWDER CAN BE APPLIED TO GLASSES PRIOR TO USE)

2. DO NOT ACCEPT SOFT DRINKS, GUM, CANDY, CIGARETTES OR OTHER PRODUCTS
FROM STRANGERS.

3. BE WARY OF NAPKINS OR LINEN TOWELS IN BATHROOMS THAT CAN BE TREATED WITH THE POWDER.

4. NEVER GO OUT ALONE. TRAVEL WITH TRUSTED COMPANIONS.

PERSONNEL CONDUCTING PROTECTIVE OPERATIONS SHOULD CONSIDER THE SERIOUS
THREAT POSED BY "ZOMBIE DUST" TO BOTH SECURITY TEAM PERSONNEL AND
PRINCIPAL PROTECTEES.

TAKE APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS WHEN OPERATING IN AFFECTED AREAS. EXERCISE EXTREME CARE WHEN OFF DUTY.

http://sec-global.com/advisories/SA0002270400.html

[truthluva]

Well, believe it ot not, my daughter was told about Zombie dust her Freshman year of college. She told me about it. It's a scarry world out there. (I'm starting to like just sitting here talking with you good people instead of venturing out to see what's happening in the big old mean world!!)

[theophilusscribe]

Author: Dayo (---.bchsia.telus.net)
Date: 08-18-05 09:12
http://aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=8179&t=8179
This is breaking in Europe.

Washington,DC USA

The intl. news section, where they talked about George Twitty. from Mountain Brook, Alabama ,who's stepdaughter had been disappeared on the Caribbean Island of Aruba in the beginning of June.

Regarding the extensive media coverage, they brought up that one of the main reporters for Fox News Network Greta van Susteren has a very special connection to the case.

Her husband, John P. Coale, and George Twitty are both investors in a large real estate development in Richmond, VA. Each of them hold 25% of the development. The other 50% is held by a group of 2 Germans and a Dutch investor, who resides in the self-governing entity of Aruba.

[monkeywrench]

Have you seen the latest kookery on SM? Jug, some dutchman on aruba, and Greta's husband reportedly own shares in some company, which no one can find the name of. They're outraged! Some say Greta should "recuse" herself from reporting on the case. Unreal stupidity.

[theophilusscribe]

See 1930. That rumor is from aruba.com.

[rolling_stone]

They're outraged! Some say Greta should "recuse" herself from reporting on the case.

uh but its okay for VDS to "investigate" his best friends son and his godchild?

[truthluva]

Yeah I saw it. Bunch of BS. They should be over there asking "Where's Natalee" instead of kissing up to AG and NL, reminiscing about Prince and planning trips. JMHO.

[monkeywrench]

Un-hunh. They act like this exonerates joran and gang.

[maggief]

The disinformation crew is working overtime.

[theophilusscribe]

kissing up to AG and NL

Or trying to get a date with Tito . . . It gets pretty rediculous sometimes.

[truthluva]

Hey, DK...Are you lurking out there? Did some tanslations today on Abdullah Zouari. Looking for your input.

[monkeywrench]

Oh, yeah, the butt kissing is almost too much! Funny, I've had a couple of posts pulled, but not been banned. It's getting stupid over there.

[truthluva]

You really have to wade through there sometimes. I go there to keep up with the search teams and, of course, I HAVE to enter ALL the contests.

I do like to hear from Kylie when TES is active. Hopefully they will be able to go back soon.

(BTW, they're all pi$$ed at Tito, for now.)