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Is Ohio Turning Blue?
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| 08-12-05
| Gizzi, John
Posted on 08/12/2005 9:44:15 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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The OH that twice voted for Bill Clinton could in 2008 deliver the presidency back to Bill through his Hillary.
To: Theodore R.
well, it would be nice if the OH GOP cleaned up its act .. this looks like an IL redux.
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:45:45 AM PDT
by
EDINVA
To: Theodore R.
The OHIO 2 race should be a warning to everyone.If we keep standing for "pale pastels" with no bold agenda we will lose in 06.Conservatism is the ONLY redeeming quality of this party.We need to remember this.
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:47:06 AM PDT
by
Gipper08
(Mike Pence in 2008)
To: Theodore R.
Holding a clean election in the metropolitan areas would end this speculation.
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:51:07 AM PDT
by
digger48
To: Theodore R.; Gipper08
If Kerry had ignored the lobbyists and run hard against free trade, outsourcing, Enron, etc he could have carried Ohio.
Hillary will not repeat that mistake.
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:52:21 AM PDT
by
Sam the Sham
(A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
To: Theodore R.
"In the wake of a Democratic candidates narrow loss in the August 2 special election" Interesting the Republican candidate won 52% to 48%. My experience in special elections tells me that this a large margin to win by, yet the press keeps referring to it as a close election. I guess they keep dreaming, however, we cannot become complacent.
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:52:55 AM PDT
by
Rogle
To: digger48
I hope the Democratic Party holds its collective breath waiting for Ohio to turn blue.
They're going to have to wait till next November to find out anything and till 2008 to be sure.
Call me silly, but I predict that a lot of things are going to happen between now and the elections, and those things (whatever they are) are going to influence how Ohion's vote.
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:53:44 AM PDT
by
lOKKI
(You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
But most of those New Yorkers were already voting in both states anyway. What difference will this make?
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:57:53 AM PDT
by
Ingtar
(Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Florida is turning more red than even>
What kind of people leave a blue state to avoid taxes?
Republicans.
Florida attracts people who like their money and want to keep more of it.
Ask Jeb Bush how blue Florida is.
Democrats are more likely to target Ohio because of its' manufacturing base.
Democrats are losing Florida.
To: Sam the Sham
If Kerry had ignored the lobbyists and run hard against free trade, outsourcing, Enron, etc he could have carried Ohio. I'm not so sure about that. His biggest problem would have been credibility, since he was as much a "bought" candidate as anyone else.
The issues you mentioned -- particularly free trade and outsourcing -- primarily hold sway with a very narrow group of voters, many of whom end up voting for third-party candidates anyway. Almost all of the support for candidates like Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, and Ralph Nader comes from these voters.
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posted on
08/12/2005 9:59:49 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
To: Theodore R.
"Rare coin investment fund"?????
To: Theodore R.
Hit it Crystal Gayle:
"Don't it make my Buckeyes blue"
To: Theodore R.
In the wake of a Democratic candidates narrow loss in the August 2 special election in Ohios most Republican U.S. House district, pundits have begun pondering whether the Buckeye State is turning blue.The democrat lied to the voters. They thought they were voting for a pro-American.
I'll bet they're glad he lost now that the truth had surfaced. That lie will help Republicans next time. Voters don't like being lied to. Ask Bill Clinton!
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posted on
08/12/2005 10:02:35 AM PDT
by
concerned about politics
("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
To: Rogle
Interesting the Republican candidate won 52% to 48%. IIRC, in the previous election it was a 70% to 30% margin.
It would be like me golfing against Tiger Woods on his home course and coming within 4 strokes. I could see how with a little improvement I could actually beat him, and Tiger better look at what went wrong.
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posted on
08/12/2005 10:02:45 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
To: new yorker 77
Keep in mind that by the time 2008 rolls around there's a good chance that Ohio may not even be a key state anymore. The real battleground states are going to be those Midwestern states that "changed hands" -- or nearly did -- between 2000 and 2004, like Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota.
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posted on
08/12/2005 10:04:11 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
To: new yorker 77
What kind of people leave a blue state to avoid taxes? Republicans.
Ha! Rose Kennedy was listed as a Florida resident when she died to avoid the Massachusetts death tax, even though she hadn't left the PRM for several years. Dems will move to get out of their spoiled nests and save a few bucks.
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posted on
08/12/2005 10:05:32 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
To: new yorker 77
Democrats are more likely to target Ohio because of its' manufacturing base.On the other hand, democrats are losing the union support and their cash.
All the democrats do for union workers is raise their taxes and steal their pay checks.
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posted on
08/12/2005 10:06:38 AM PDT
by
concerned about politics
("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
To: Theodore R.
After Noe received state funds as investments in his coin business in 1998, according to the Blade, he made $7,000 in contributions to then-Secretary of State Taft, who was running for governor. In total, Noe has given $22,190 to Taft. In 1998, he also gave $2,000 to then-Gov. George Voinovich (R.), who was running for the U.S. Senate that year. In addition, he has given $7,500 to Sen. Mike DeWine (R.-Ohio). I don't see Secretary of State and future Governor Blackwell on there. Good, I hope he didn't get any money from this crook.
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posted on
08/12/2005 10:07:52 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
To: Rogle
The second district is the most Republican in Ohio.We should have gotten 65%.Something is wrong.
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posted on
08/12/2005 10:09:10 AM PDT
by
Gipper08
(Mike Pence in 2008)
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