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Humans to Blame for Ice Age Extinctions, Study Says
National Geographic ^ | August 10, 2005 | Hillery Mayell

Posted on 08/11/2005 11:02:22 AM PDT by ZULU

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To: JohnnyM
yes, mitochondrial eve was without a mate for many thousands of years waiting for Y-Chromosome Adam to appear.

No, sorry. Try reading for comprehension next time.

Very logical.

It is logical when you understand it.

When you don't, though, it's easier to just to ridicule things to cover your discomfort over your inability to grasp the material.

101 posted on 08/11/2005 3:06:02 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: taxesareforever; antceecee
["There's a real lack of a 'smoking gun' implicating either climate change or human hunting, but that's true for every theory."]

What is not a theory is that scientists have too much time on their hands coming up with more and more theories. Until they present facts their theories belong in comic books.

What also isn't in question is that you obviously have no real idea how science works, or why scientists propose as many plausible hypotheses as they can think of, and then continue to perform validation/falsification tests on them as long as it takes for the results to clearly indicate which explanation is the correct one (or closest to the correct one, anyway).

102 posted on 08/11/2005 3:09:50 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: GOP_1900AD
At one point, there may have been as few as 10000 people world wide.

My high school had 2000 students. To think that at one point, there were 5 of my high schools throughout the world is just incomprehensible.

103 posted on 08/11/2005 3:16:37 PM PDT by technochick99 (firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: antceecee; taxesareforever
Amazing what they accept as good 'science'.

Yes, it is amazing how effective the scientific method is at separating valid ideas from horse manure.

They make pronouncements on theories they pull out of their @sses and call it good science,

No they don't. You might want to refrain from trying to critique a field you don't know enough about to properly review.

but let someone suggest that there could be a higher power involved in creating the universe and they insist that is 'not scientific'

The "suggestion" is indeed not scientific, and neither is any other "suggestion" of any other sort on any other topic. If you ever get to the point where you have a testable *theory* on that subject (*and* know what actually constitutes a theory in the scientific sense and what features your proposal will have to have to qualify), do feel free to get back to us.

and thus not worth teaching against their other holy theory of 'evolution'.

Not in science class, anyway. Go right ahead and propose Odin or Shiva or whoever in a class on religion or sociology or history if you wish.

I guess 'good science' is whatever they pronounce it to be.

I guess you don't have a clue about this subject, but you keep talking anyway. "Good science" is that which follows proper scientific procedure and validation methods. If you choose to just "propose" something instead but not go through the hard work necessary to demonstrate the validity of your proposal via the proper methods, then you shouldn't complain when your proposal doesn't qualify as science, or appropriate for teaching in science class.

104 posted on 08/11/2005 3:19:29 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

"...why scientists propose as many plausible hypotheses as they can think of, and then continue to perform validation/falsification tests on them as long as it takes for the results to clearly indicate which explanation is the correct one (or closest to the correct one, anyway)."

Even you admit they are guessing!!!
The problem with the scientific community today is many have politicized the process of validation of their ideas. They present some of the most convoluted/ridiculous theories as FACT instead of the educated guesses they truly are (I use the term educated loosely here). I have nothing against the scientific method properly and honestly applied to test hypotheses and I do believe there are many researchers who are honest, but there are many who are only reporting/validating the person paying them to do their research.
OTH, YOU respond with personal attacks against those here who have contempt for these would be Einsteins. Pehaps your feelings are hurt by the low opinion some of us hold for these scientific parasites spewing their garbage. My comments were and are not meant personally to you, only to the subject at hand. You have absolutely no idea as to the level of my education and/or experience. The fact I criticize the scientific community does not make me any less intelligent than you sir/madam.


105 posted on 08/11/2005 4:07:19 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: untrained skeptic

"It's mainly people starting with a conclusion, and looking for evidence to support it, and trying to ignore or minimize evidence that contradicts it.

In the end there's nothing useful to learn from their theory, other than that they have an agenda."

Exactly.


106 posted on 08/11/2005 4:12:57 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: Ichneumon

Admit it. It is all personal opinion.


107 posted on 08/11/2005 4:26:57 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: ZULU

And how many years and federal dollars did it take for this enlightening research. Am I,as a taxpayer,getting my monies worth? duh!


108 posted on 08/11/2005 4:29:32 PM PDT by jos65
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To: conservatrice

Animals will one day sue humans.


109 posted on 08/11/2005 4:30:43 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: taxed2death
Wooly Mammoth... the "other white meat"

You wouldn't happen to know this guy?

Please don't ask me to explain anything about this strip, such as how the shark and turtle are talking, how the shark is holding the spear gun, where he got the spear gun, etc. Just know that I saw this on the web site for the strip (www.slagoon.com) and knew that I was hooked.

110 posted on 08/11/2005 5:52:16 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: jos65

Sorry. Not even a sloth bone.


111 posted on 08/11/2005 6:28:30 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

Now if we could just be responsible for the extinction of liberals we'd be gettin somewhere....


112 posted on 08/11/2005 8:50:38 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: ZULU

Oh, please ... just, frickin' please.


113 posted on 08/11/2005 8:53:01 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Let's Roll

Sorry. Begging will get you nowhere.

No sloth or Mammoth for you today!


114 posted on 08/11/2005 9:04:47 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

Obviously they would have preferred the humans to starve instead.

Must be a great feeling, going through life filled with such self-loathing for fulfilling Holy Darwin's Sacred Dictate:

"The fittest shalt survivest; yea, he shalt extinctify the unfit competitor."


115 posted on 08/11/2005 9:06:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Marching Morons are coming...and they're breeding more Democrats beyond all reason!)
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To: SunkenCiv

PINGAROONY!


116 posted on 08/11/2005 9:33:36 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Marching Morons are coming...and they're breeding more Democrats beyond all reason!)
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117 posted on 08/11/2005 10:23:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: ZULU
They had an article recently about a human footprint found in Mexico that was dated to 40,000 years ago. It was preserved in lava.

The footprint was headed towards the Rio Grande.

Well yeah, I'd be heading for the water too if I just stepped in some lava! LOL

118 posted on 08/11/2005 11:05:31 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Ichneumon
What also isn't in question is that you obviously have no real idea how science works, or why scientists propose as many plausible hypotheses as they can think of, and then continue to perform validation/falsification tests on them as long as it takes for the results to clearly indicate which explanation is the correct one (or closest to the correct one, anyway).

So you're saying science is just one "shot in the dark" after another, or put another way, "A bunch of wild-ass guesses" (SWAG)?

"Science" today has been prostituted by the left to be just another hammer to force their warped view of the world on the rest of us politically. Just as one doesn't need to be a meteorologist to know when it's going to rain, you don't need to be a "scientist" to smell the BS.

119 posted on 08/11/2005 11:13:51 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Ichneumon

You left out "peer review". They produce theories that their "peers" agree with. It is not only their opinion it is the opinion of elitists that that won't see the light of day unless it has their stamp of approval on it. It's called "The scientific establishment" and to get along you better toe the line of the elitists. To suggest that I don't see the big picture is pure bunk. I spent three hours in a public meeting last night listening to environmentalist poppycock. I know what the big picture looks like and it leaves out a whole bunch of people that have common sense.


120 posted on 08/11/2005 11:15:27 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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