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To: Chickensoup

Fifteen years from when?


150 posted on 08/12/2005 3:26:37 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Fifteen years from when?

From the initial publication to protocols if I recall correctly.


The part I wanted to adress is that the medical community first had one untested perspective on ulcers that didn't permit challange, and locked its practitionrs in a certain understanding of ulcers and of the GI tract....and I suspect, with broader ramifications on the understanding of the body's protective mechanisms.

But when a new possibility emerges, that restructures the understanding of the GI tract and the body, it was adopted after empirical testing.


There is no emperical testing of evolution nor of ID. There are only structures of understanding each theory. Evolution has held sway for many years...and it is a little bit like that stomach...no room for opposing theories. The gastro professor has spoken!

It would be interesting to see each aspect of Behe's presentation responded to...and not ridiculed.

One of the posters stated that IDs, not necessarily Behe, keep moving the goalposts. But in the example we are working with, a scientist states that Behe's irriducible complexity for a certain mechanism is 40 protiens and he has found the same mechanism functioning at 33. But this is trivial...for the bottom line issue is not the number of proteins, but rather that certain number..."x" ...is or is not irriducible.

I appreciate your civility.



155 posted on 08/12/2005 3:55:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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