Proud to be a Browncoat.
"May have been on the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong side." - Capt. Reynolds.
Posted on 08/08/2005 7:28:50 PM PDT by 68skylark
I just hope whatever vehicle is used to further the Firefly mythos doesn't get hijacked from the spirit of the original series.
I remember that conceited little pimple Harlan Ellison tried to remake Star Trek in City on the Edge of Forever. He wanted to make Bones a druggy or insane IIRC.
Then there was the Section 31 book that was an explicit attempt by the author to make the Star Trek universe homosexual-friendly.
If Firefly can stick to its original premises, who can tell how far it will go?
The one thing that gives me hope in the Whedon corner (in light of the goofy directions they took Buffy and Angel) is according to the DVD commentary everyone involved with Firefly knew they were doing great work while they were doing it, as opposed to the more common figuring it out in retrospect. You don't fix what ain't broke. And according to Shepard Book..."you don't 'fix' the Bible." Let's hope that goes for the show bible too.
Over 1400 reviews on Amazon (including mine) and it's 5 stars. BTW, I first heard of Firefly right here on FR. Fox did a miserable job marketing and scheduling this show. I hope they feel embarassed.
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"Book" in the voice-over lead-in to the "Train" episode..
"...with a ship you can get work, with a gun you can keep your ship."
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There have been a few screenings of Serenity so far. (sans the special effects, which weren't quite done yet.) While I've been avoiding spoilers for the film, if Book got offed in the film, it would have slipped by now. In fact so far, the only thing's that slipped is that River's big secret is that she's made of chocolate.
A. I've been religious avoiding spoiler reviews, as I always do for films I care at all about.
B. Don't you think it odd, though, that he doesn't even flash by on a trailer?
C. If River is really made of chocolate, my son and I will hunt you down and find you!
Dan
Fortunatley, Fox only wounded it. The movie Serenity hits theaters on Sept. 30, and the Sci-Fi channel's relentless plugging (to the point of running all of Firefly, including unaired episodes, as a lead-in to the movie release) seems to indicate to me that they may have interest in picking it up...
You mean like, "I'll be in my bunk"?
On a more serious topic, I vaguely recall an interview with Joss where he stated something to the effect that he only had two hours to play with in the movie, and with 8 people in the cast, some folks were going to get shortchanged in screen time. And it sounds like "some folks" translates to "Ron Glass". (I'll also note I have yet to even see one of the trailers, so I can't comment on that.)
As for the spoiler, you'll need to wait for me to kill someone else first.
Well, we'll know in about 53 days or something. I hope he's not too short -- loved Glass in Barney Miller, liked his character in this. And I want to find out what the heck his story is!
I liked the earlier interchange between Book and Inara. Mal's on a dangerous mission, Book wishes he could do more. From memory:
Inara: Well, you could pray for him.
Book: I don't think Mal would appreciate that.
Inara: You could not tell him. (Pause, then lower) I never do.
Dan
Proud to be a Browncoat.
"May have been on the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong side." - Capt. Reynolds.
It looks like you and I are in the minority then. I remember watching Firefly when it first came out and being unimpressed. I've been watching the reruns on Fridays and I still don't see the appeal of it.
Maybe one reason I have a problem with it is that the "good guys" go around stealing things and killing people. In the episode where they stole the vaccine from the train, Mal was threatened by a bad guy, so in response he kills the guy. To me it symbolizes the current "anything goes" society where people are encouraged to manufacture their own morality and nothing is every purely right or wrong.
Probably another reason it's not my cup of tea either is that I like a little Science with my Science Fiction, and in Firefly there's almost none to be had. They could easily substitute a stagecoach for the spaceship and continue the series without missing a beat.
But as you said, people should form opinions on their own.
Well, they're not "good guys", they're just less bad than the bad guys.
In the episode where they stole the vaccine from the train, Mal was threatened by a bad guy, so in response he kills the guy.
Don't tell me you actually prefer Greedo shooting first...
I'm not sure who Greedo is, but as I recall at the end of the episode, the bad guy was on his knees, unarmed, with his hands tied behind his back. He told Mal that he would hunt him and that some day Mal would meet his blad, or something like that. And Mal kicked him toward the ship's engine and he was sucked in. Of course it was humorous when the second bad guy became willing to comply after seeing what happened to the first bad guy, but it still kinda creeped me out.
Maybe I just yearn for my old-time Star Trek morality plays, where good always vanquishes evil and you can easily tell them apart.
Firefly fit the constraints of TV so well, I worry that it won't translate well. It is also very detailed and ongoing...not generally the flash that can be folded into two-hour movie and then left with nothing for a few years.
There's even a comment to that effect in the pilot, where Wash refers to the others as Travellers.
Yeah. Space: Above and Beyond mangled military stuff too, as I recall.
My favorite line there is where Jayne is rifling through Simon's stuff and making up mocking diary entries. It was the best day ever!
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