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Grad Student Believes Wood May Replace Oil
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| 08/03/2005
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Posted on 08/04/2005 6:35:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
There is a huge new development being built across the road from where I live. Step one seems to be bulldoze all of the trees down, while Step two is pile them up and burn them. I guess the air wasn't dirty enough or maybe it was too cool at 90 degrees.
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posted on
08/04/2005 7:36:27 AM PDT
by
sportutegrl
(People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
To: Minnesoootan
IIRC - Years ago, American Timber, In Olney, MT, started by collecting the scrap that was left from logging operations. They could take the smaller trees and get 2x4s out of them. Most bigger operations, Plum Creek found that it was not cost effective.
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posted on
08/04/2005 7:41:28 AM PDT
by
Bear_Slayer
(Montani semper liberi !)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
We have Penn State students working on coal alternatives to even process jet fuel. Wait till the anti everything eco nuts find out about these type things. We aren't even allowed to get our own oil out of the ground in the USA. Thanks AlGore!!
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posted on
08/04/2005 7:48:47 AM PDT
by
BallyBill
(..the only quagmire I see is the one the Media is stuck in..)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
At ~$2.50/gallon, methanol ain't exactly cheap as a feedstock.
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posted on
08/04/2005 8:05:11 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
To: Puddleglum
Probably an electric furnace.
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posted on
08/04/2005 8:05:36 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
To: hflynn
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posted on
08/04/2005 8:10:01 AM PDT
by
hawkaw
To: E. Pluribus Unum
The only problem is that another name for hemp is marijuana.
Which is why marijuana will never be legal. Fuel oil can be cheaply extracted from hemp seed. Hemp competes with both fuel and paper, and legal hemp threatens both of those industries.
It's not about dope, it's about protecting old industry from new competition.
...
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posted on
08/04/2005 8:25:39 AM PDT
by
mugs99
To: mugs99
It's not about dope, it's about protecting old industry from new competition. Starting with William Randolph Hearst's campaign to criminalize hemp when a hemp gin was perfected that threatened his newsprint empire.
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posted on
08/04/2005 8:42:02 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
To: newgeezer
energy ping.
Same as bio diesel but a different plant.
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posted on
08/04/2005 9:43:26 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(They are not gods which are made with hands.)
To: jbstrick
Perhaps you think normal oil is refined without heat?
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posted on
08/04/2005 9:45:06 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(They are not gods which are made with hands.)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Grad Student Believes Wood May Replace OilIn related news, grade schooler believes that people can all walk to work, high school student believes that solar powered vehicles are practical, Democrats believe that wealth should be distributed rather than earned.
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posted on
08/04/2005 9:48:04 AM PDT
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
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posted on
08/04/2005 9:51:34 AM PDT
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
To: biblewonk
After reading this, I envision the little lady having a half-baked design for a perpetual-motion machine lying around somewhere.
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posted on
08/04/2005 10:04:19 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
To: biblewonk
Oh, Soria is a guy. So, strike that "little lady" remark, and replace it with any of a number of nutty-professor epithets. :)
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posted on
08/04/2005 10:06:20 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
To: Puddleglum
What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?Firewood ?
To: newgeezer
I think it's probably not the most efficient way to get your bio product for conversion. I'm sure there is an optimum in converting sunlight to the right plant and converting that plant into oil with the least energy.
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posted on
08/04/2005 10:09:41 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(They are not gods which are made with hands.)
To: biblewonk
Certainly, the idea of turning a waste product into energy can be even more intriguing than that of growing and harvesting a plant. But, in either case, the bottom line has to take into consideration weighing the output (benefits) against all of the inputs (costs).
I'm no scientist but, this one sounds silly (even if oil is $80/bbl).
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posted on
08/04/2005 10:22:08 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
To: newgeezer
I don't see why it sounds silly, except I think it would take a ton of energy to convert wood to sawdust. Why not just grow that crack grass or whatever that one kind of grass is that is grown for burning?
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posted on
08/04/2005 10:23:35 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(They are not gods which are made with hands.)
To: Nonstatist; biblewonk
What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?
Firewood ?Of course. That's where he got the sawdust in the first place.
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-...
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posted on
08/04/2005 10:24:01 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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