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New State Poll: Utah Residents Overwhelmingly Want Flag Protection Amendment
US News ^ | 8/3/05

Posted on 08/03/2005 12:00:54 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

A new statewide, independent poll again confirmed overwhelming support for a constitutional amendment that would return to Americans their right to protect the flag of the United States from acts of physical desecration.

The survey queried 502 adults comprised of 251 men and 251 women 18 years of age and older living in private households in the state of Utah and was conducted by Opinion Research Corporation. Seventy percent say they favor such an amendment, with 78 percent saying it is somewhat important to extremely important to protect Old Glory.

"After reading about recent polls conducted in Utah that alleged a drop in support of the amendment we commissioned a new, non-partisan, independent poll," said Maj. Gen. Patrick H. Brady, U.S. Army (Ret.), chairman of the Citizens Flag Alliance, Inc. "Not surprisingly, the poll reaffirmed what previous polls over the past 15 years have shown in Utah and nationally: the American people overwhelmingly want the right to protect their flag returned to them."

Sen. Robert Bennett is sponsoring legislation that would make it a crime for a person to intentionally destroy or damage an American flag if the flag belongs to someone else, or if the act is done solely to incite violence -- a very specific statute.

Brady said since a 5-4 decision of the Supreme Court in 1989 declared flag desecration to be "free speech," federal and state laws that once protected the flag have been ruled unconstitutional. "An amendment is the only way to correct the Court's ruling. If Senator Bennett truly desires a flag protection law, he must first support an amendment that will allow the law to stand."

"Americans have been accused of having short attention spans but in the case of the flag amendment, they have been resolute for 15 years and will continue to be so until the amendment is passed," Brady said. "The people will not give up on this because it's a values issue for Americans. This poll should be a strong message to Sen. Bennett that the people want him to join with Sen. Orrin Hatch and vote yes on Senate Joint Resolution 12, the Hatch-Feinstein flag amendment."

Poll results are similar to a random survey of 1,004 adults nation-wide conducted by Opinion Research Corporation June 16 - 19. In responding to the question, "how important do you think it is to make flag desecration against the law," 81 percent said it was somewhat to extremely important. Another 75 percent said they wanted Congress to pass a flag protection constitutional amendment.

All 50 state legislatures have petitioned Congress for a flag amendment, asking that an amendment be proposed and sent to the states to be ratified. "At that point, we would be pleased to join with Sen. Bennett in crafting a law that will return a right that the Supreme Court has taken from us," Brady said.


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1 posted on 08/03/2005 12:00:56 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"At that point, we would be pleased to join with Sen. Bennett in crafting a law that will return a right that the Supreme Court has taken from us," Brady said.

Ah yes, the right to throw people in prison for expressing unpopular views.

2 posted on 08/03/2005 12:03:34 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Sorry to be crass, but I find it much more important to protect the Bill of Rights than to protect a piece of cloth.


3 posted on 08/03/2005 12:04:01 PM PDT by johnny r
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To: ThinkDifferent
Ah yes, the right to throw people in prison for expressing unpopular views.

How do you feel about "hate" crimes? (not flaming you, just a query)

4 posted on 08/03/2005 12:06:07 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

Abortion?


5 posted on 08/03/2005 12:14:40 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I urge Roberts to support all sections of the Constitution which uphold abortion)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The American flag is the best symbol in this world. However, islamics (and remember the 60s war protestors like draft dodger clintoon) will burn the flag thinking they'll hurt Americans with that desecration.


6 posted on 08/03/2005 12:16:19 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: digger48
How do you feel about "hate" crimes?

They're ridiculous for similar reasons that the flag-burning amendment is. They inflict additional punishment based not on the nature of the crime, but on the criminal's personal views.

7 posted on 08/03/2005 12:16:44 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Those who burn the flag are despicable human beings, however passing any law to protect the flag would set a dangerous precedent. Burning someone else's flag is the same as intentionally damaging another's property and is already covered by law. It is difficult to imagine that any demonstration in this country where the flag might be burned would take place without inciteful speech. If violence ensues, then that is covered as well.

In my opinion, passing such a law would smack of the same manner of thinking that got us hate crime legislation. Anything that is a "hate crime" is also "just" a crime and was already covered by existing law.

Besides, I don't want my right to burn a Qur'an subjected to any law that I'm the sure the Islamists would try to get through the minute a law against burning the flag was passed. I can't burn my neighbor's Qur'an, but I sure as heck have the right to burn mine.

9 posted on 08/03/2005 12:27:55 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Exactly.

I don't care if 100% of people in a state wanted to outlaw free speech or gun ownership, it would still be a terrible idea.


10 posted on 08/03/2005 12:30:40 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Proof again that Democracy is a flawed idea.


11 posted on 08/03/2005 12:32:01 PM PDT by Paradox (John Bolton: "How am I supposed to live without U(n)".)
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To: Jerry K.
Go ahead and express your views, just don't disrespect the nation's flag.

If I buy or make a flag, it belongs to me, not "the nation".

12 posted on 08/03/2005 12:33:49 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: ThinkDifferent; sageb1
make a flag child, it belongs to me, not "the nation".

I sure as heck have the right to burn mine.

Pro-Choice?

13 posted on 08/03/2005 12:43:41 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I urge Roberts to support all sections of the Constitution which uphold abortion)
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To: Jerry K.

First thing we will have to do is define what constitutes an "American Flag". Will it include those cartoon versions the Muslims paint and then burn? What about my stars and stripes jacket? A Flag anti-disrespect amendment would be IMPOSSIBLE to enforce, and I have never heard a cogent argument as to why this isn't a States issue. Most flags are made in China anyway.


14 posted on 08/03/2005 1:14:22 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: Jerry K.

"American" used to imply that a person is a Citizen of the U.S.A. But it's looking like citizenship has no advantages anymore...just responsibilities (if you know what I mean). And don't even get me started on the "hyphenated-Americans".


16 posted on 08/03/2005 1:53:28 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

You're not seriously suggesting that a flag has Constitutional rights, are you?

That's silly. If you're going to exaggerate to make your point, you have to maintain at least the semblance of a connection or your point is not made.


17 posted on 08/03/2005 2:14:01 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball

Why do you believe SCOTUS has the ability to amend the Constitution?


18 posted on 08/03/2005 2:40:48 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I urge Roberts to support all sections of the Constitution which uphold abortion)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Where did I say that?

I was commenting on your rather silly post
make a flag child, it belongs to me, not "the nation".

which I'm hoping was made in jest.

19 posted on 08/03/2005 2:58:26 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball
Who changed the Constitution to accommodate each of the above
20 posted on 08/03/2005 3:02:42 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I urge Roberts to support all sections of the Constitution which uphold abortion)
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