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Catholic Justice - Quit tiptoeing around John Roberts' faith
Slate ^ | 8/1/05 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 08/02/2005 11:46:13 PM PDT by zarf

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1 posted on 08/02/2005 11:46:15 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf
(who was himself unfairly misquoted recently as having made a direct comparison between Guantanamo, Hitler, and Stalin when he had only mentioned them in the same breath)

I love ya, Chris, but--puh-leeeze. Everyone knows what Durbin was doing when he put those words together.

I like Chris too much to even read further than that.

2 posted on 08/02/2005 11:48:33 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: zarf

Isn't it about time DurbinLaden was told to stick his head up a dead bear's bum?


3 posted on 08/02/2005 11:49:14 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: zarf
And perhaps secular America could one day have just one representative on that august body. Or would that be heresy?

Ah, couldn't resist, had to scan the rest. I'll only comment on this, though.

As an agnostic, I have no problem with no agnostics or atheists being on the court. I don't care HOW a judge arrives at a particular position--religion, philosophy, whatever. It just so happens that those on the court who see things my way are Christians. So what? The atheists I know don't vote anything like I do, so why would I want THEM on the court--to "balance" the religious backgrounds of those in a non-religious environment? Isn't that called bigotry?

4 posted on 08/02/2005 11:52:05 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Isn't it about time DurbinLaden was told to stick his head up a dead bear's bum?

That's exactly the punishment I had in mind for him. Only my bear wasn't dead.

5 posted on 08/02/2005 11:52:38 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: Minuteman23

He will be soon. Nothing could survive that!


6 posted on 08/02/2005 11:54:31 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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7 posted on 08/03/2005 2:00:20 AM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: zarf

" The Roman Catholic Church claims the right to legislate on morals for all its members and to excommunicate them if they don't conform. The church is also a foreign state, which has diplomatic relations with Washington. In the very recent past, this church and this state gave asylum to Cardinal Bernard Law, who should have been indicted for his role in the systematic rape and torture of thousands of American children."

Oh gee. I don't have enough time in my entire year to take this apart word by word. Suffice it to say that these two statements are the crown jewels made of paste and rhinestones that represent the bulk of the left's argument.

Absolute bull hockey.


8 posted on 08/03/2005 2:47:51 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: OpusatFR
The church vatican is also a foreign state, which has diplomatic relations with Washington
9 posted on 08/03/2005 2:57:24 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

That part is true.

Nothing like twisting truth though in an argument.


10 posted on 08/03/2005 3:01:32 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: zarf

I don't know who this idiot (journalist) is or what it is he is pretending to be but he is a fool…a fool in the biblical sense.

Mr. Hitchens (like most fools) seems to think that if he says that Durbin was misquoted and puts it into an article well, that’s that. I heard Durbin’s statement. I read the transcript. Durbin said and meant what rational (non-fools) people heard…the US is just like Hitler and Stalin.

Mr. Hitchens, in this article, goes on to hit every single liberal talking point except pollution. He even included the nuanced “is it kosher to mention these things” so that it is implied that he even questions Jewish morality.

Mr. Hitchens is a fool with an agenda and a platform from which to broadcast his agenda.

God help us…God help him.


11 posted on 08/03/2005 3:08:51 AM PDT by secessionist
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To: secessionist
I don't know who this idiot (journalist) is

Don't get out much, huh?

12 posted on 08/03/2005 4:03:32 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: agere_contra

The church vatican is also a foreign state, which has diplomatic relations with Washington>>>>

Excellent point.


13 posted on 08/03/2005 4:08:26 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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To: zarf

1. Needs barf alert.

2. Questioning about or taking religion into consideration in any way for the confirmation process is SEPCIFICALLY PROHIBITED BY THE CONSTITUTION.


14 posted on 08/03/2005 4:10:29 AM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: NYer

Great more blatant anti-Catholic rhetoric from the left! Keep it up!


15 posted on 08/03/2005 5:21:26 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: zarf
Christopher Hitchens is an unrepentant Commie (of the Trotskyite variety), who spent the '80s attacking Ronald Reagan and defending the Soviet Union. He has never apologized for this, and his views have remained consistent, hostility to religion (especially Roman Catholicism) being an integral part of the Communist world view.

Of course, his hatred for Roman Catholicism is deep. Not only does it come out all the time, it comes out is way that would be deeply embarrassing to normal human beings, such as his drunken tirade against Mother Teresa during ABC's televised coverage of her funeral and the two vicious columns he wrote attacking John Paul II--on the occasion of his death.

His support for the so-called War on Terror is of a piece. As a Trotskyite, Hitchens has always supported "world revolution," and that's what he sees in our current neocon foreign policy, as interviews he has given to leftist reporters make clear. He hates the Islamists not because they are terrorists--Commies have always been terrorists--but because they believe in God, after a fashion. He'd just as soon be lobbing cruise missiles into St. Peter's as bombing the Taliban. (He probably also harbors some resentment of the Islamists for the role they played in driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan, just as he clearly resented the role John Paul II played in bringing down the Soviet Empire).

Hitchens' entire world view is based on his hatred of religion and tradtion. An absolutely disgusting human being.

16 posted on 08/03/2005 5:28:28 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: zarf

Last I heard, Durbin himself said what Turley described flat did not happen.

And of course, Durbin compared troops at Gitmo to Hitler, Stalin, etc. He said if one did not know what he described happened at Gitmo, one would surely think it happened at the hands of Nazis, etc.


17 posted on 08/03/2005 5:56:11 AM PDT by alnick
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To: zarf
...the newly installed Pope Benedict XVI (who will always be Ratzinger to me)...

And just what does this mean? Are we supposed to care that this "author" doesn't approve of the new Pope? This guy is a self-important Idiotarian.

18 posted on 08/03/2005 6:19:59 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (Papist. Veteran. American. Conservative. Tattooed. Pierced. Questions?)
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To: NYer; cpforlife.org; Coleus; redgolum
The Cardinal Law case and the pedophile scandals have NOTHING to do with Roberts being named to SCOTUS. Hitchens is a KOOK for bringing this up.

On the abortion matter, as it relates to Roberts' Catholic faith, the church teaches that Roberts and his wife MAY NOT have an abortion. If they did, they would be guilty of a serious mortal sin and would face excommunication. The legal controversy over abortion with Roe vs. Wade does not have to do with whether it is a mortal sin in Catholic teaching. It has to do with whether it is an issue the courts should decide or whether it falls to the jurisdiction of the states to determine what if any legal penalties should be brought against abortionists and those who have abortions. The legal controversy is quite different from the moral/theological one in Catholic teaching.

Once again Christopher Hitchens has another anti-Catholic psychotic in public.


19 posted on 08/03/2005 10:31:53 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Thorin

As someone who was involved in Trotskyite Communist agitation, Hitchens should be deported. There are plenty perverts and cover-ups of their antics in Britain to keep Hitchens occupied for the rest of his silly life.


20 posted on 08/03/2005 10:35:36 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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