Qassam rockets meant for Sderot rally slam into Palestinian house

IMRA ^ | 8-2-05

[DemHunter]

LOL

So in other words "You don't know Jack!"

Thanks for not answering my questions, and proving my point.

[stumpy]

Outstanding. They are reducining the numbers of future terrorists. Hey Ragheads, Murphy's 1st law of combat is "friendly fire is not friendly".....

[sofaman]

Sorry Taylor..I guess I got a little carried away. The terrorism in Israel has hit too close to home so I guess my perspective is somewhat warped.

You're right...it's important to keep a sense of perspective. This was a 3 yr old kid...

[Stonewall Jackson]

They must have used the TLAR targeting system. (That Looks About Right)

[bvw]

I remember reading some link or article about Islam posted on FR that claimed at least 1/4th of the Koran is absolute gibberish even in Arabic. The rest, and the added material -- a schizophrenic cobbling. All to a purpose though! To allow the reader to read in what he may, it's almost like the Koran is designed to allow certain traditions that promote violence and victimhood -- the rule of the bull-like tyrant, his empire built on loathing of the stranger, hatred -- to become ingtained.

That is, it is understandable why your read differs from Calpernia's

[ApplegateRanch]

Allah Fubar, Ham-Ass!

[ApplegateRanch]

And a 3 year old child is dead. No matter what is said about the politcs of the place, the 3 year old had harmed no one.

Yet.

And now, never will.

[Kozak]

Somehow, someway it's:
Bush's fault.
It's a Jewish plot.

[Pearls Before Swine]

Too bad about the kid. Maybe he wouldn't have been perverted later, although his society would have tried.

I'm focusing more on the targeting of the rally, fortunately spared by the inaccuracy of the current generation of Qassam rockets. After the Israelis have displayed such restraint in not blasting the "rich target" areas of such mob scenes as the Yassin procession or the rallies celebrating the lynching of those lost Israeli soldiers, or Yassir's funeral, or the frequent "protest" rallies, the terrorists intent to target a crowd is striking.

Turn about would definitely be fair play, wouldn't it?

[Calpernia]

Do you know how Arabic is translated?

Yes or no?

[Alexander Rubin]

That kid did nothing to deserve this. Let's see how those who launched the rocket respond to this. A 3 year old is innocent, wherever he comes from. Fatah/PLO is not going to respond well to this. They are prepping for a war with Hamas anyways.

Noone should ever cheer the death of children. Ever. Those who made glib comments should apologize, though I can understand their cynical reactions, given the history of the region.

[SmithL]

It bears saying again,

There will not be peace in the mid-east until the palestinians decide that they love their children more than they hate the Jews.

[Calpernia]

Ok. You may be offline now. So, since you already stated you know Jack, I will give you the Jack and Jill explanation.

Arabic doesn't translate conversationally word for word. For example, there are almost 100 ways to say lion. It is done by both, words and phrases.

Phrases are translated by whom they were spoken by and the context they were spoken in.

If there is a sentence:

"The lion slept next to the mouse."

Depending how this was written, it can be translated 5 different ways. (more or less)

If the word lion was referenced by a phrase; then, the meaning of that phrase is translated by a historic reference of whom spoke it.

Example, if that phrase that was used to reference lion was also used by Osama Bin Laden in a speech, then that phrase will CHANGE the entire meaning of the sentence.

That sentence can be read, "The lion slept next to the mouse." OR, now with the historic context "The lion beheaded the mouse and smashed it's skull under his boots".

This is why there are multiple translations of the Quran. Depending who translates it and depending who interprets it, the phrases are different.

Do you understand?

[Alexander Rubin]

That's a perfect way of saying this.

[seowulf]

I don't need to watch any videos of torture to know that human beings who are not restrained by a civilized religion that values individual human life and freedom can be vicious animals to one another. That is the purpose of religion in society-to restain our animal instincts.

People who are not restrained by core principles of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" can devolve until they lose any shred of humanity. The perpetrator of the crime yesterday can be the victim today because there are no rules governing human action. People who try to "free" themselves from the restraints of conscience and righteousness don't know what kind of slaves they are trying to become.

People want to do the right things as individuals (usually), but they find themselves caught up in the mob sometimes. I've come to see Islam from its historical beginnings as a marauding mob of thugs. It is a sad thing when people worship murder, thievery, and rape.

[Calpernia]

Since the Multicoalition Forces are training them thugs and fighting with them, we should bomb that whole Mid East.

[seowulf]

No. I'm not quite a bomb them all and let God sort 'em out kind of guy. Like I say, there is hope for the individuals who want to do the right thing and I have great respect for their bravery. They just have to take control of their religion and not let it control them. We can't control it for them however. They have a decision to make and soon. What are they willing to tolerate. If they choose to tolerate Imams brainwashing them into wearing bomb vests into crowds of innocents, then we can't tolerate them.

[Calpernia]

>>>>They just have to take control of their religion and not let it control them.

What in the Sam Hill do you think is going on? That is part of the rebuilding of that region. The Iraqis and Afghanis are fighting the same eliments we all are.

[agrace]

Of course it's the Jews' fault - if they hadn't been there to be a target in the first place, that little boy wouldn't have died. More blood on their evil Zionist hands.

[seowulf]

Yes, that is the plan, but the "Iraqis" and "Afhanis" are not monolithic in their thoughts or actions. There is a whole spectrum of thoughts and beliefs from jihadi extremists to liberty loving Thomas Jeffersons and everthing in between. Who will win is nowhere close to being determined. All we are doing is giving them a chance to be free. If they fail, we'll still have to deal with it.